toy4fun
1/2 ton status
I was wondering the advantges/disadvantages of running a Van 14FF. vs. a Truck 14FF. with wheel spacers /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
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Van axles vs. wheel spacers
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zakk
1/2 ton status
van axle will make your width the same as the front, making spacers unneeded
toy4fun
1/2 ton status
Are the van axles hard (expensive) to get a hold of /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif If I should brake one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
70~K5
1/2 ton status
A van axle will be easier on your wheel bearings than spacers would be. Spacers or small back space rims = extra leverage on the wheel bearings. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
My .02 for what it's worth.
(I will now make the disclaimer that I am a Toyota guy and ocassionaly visit this board just for the hell of it)
There is nothing wrong with running a reasonable spacer. Pretty much all of the guys that have done an SAS on a toy (myself included) run 3/4" spacers on the front. Some guys are now running 1.5" spacers without any problems. Bruce is right, they do create more leverage on the bearings but were talking about a 14bolt here. I don't think that added bit of leverage is going to make any difference on the life span of those bearings.
Given the difficulty that can be had finding a van housing I would just run a spacer.
(I will now make the disclaimer that I am a Toyota guy and ocassionaly visit this board just for the hell of it)
There is nothing wrong with running a reasonable spacer. Pretty much all of the guys that have done an SAS on a toy (myself included) run 3/4" spacers on the front. Some guys are now running 1.5" spacers without any problems. Bruce is right, they do create more leverage on the bearings but were talking about a 14bolt here. I don't think that added bit of leverage is going to make any difference on the life span of those bearings.
Given the difficulty that can be had finding a van housing I would just run a spacer.
TXsizeK5
1/2 ton status
Depends... if you're a trail, mud, sand, small rock guy, spacers will definately be fine. IF you're hardcore into rock crawling, the added leverage will definately catch up to you.
toy4fun
1/2 ton status
I'm a Toyota guy also! Lift and Lock what could be simpler? Ay I know my toy (FJ40) does not put enough HP to break any thing (with the exception of an birfield or my wallet)
Is it worth changing? I have a Truck 14FF and spacers, I can pick a Van 14FF for around $150. None of which is under the truck right now,
Is it worth changing? I have a Truck 14FF and spacers, I can pick a Van 14FF for around $150. None of which is under the truck right now,
SUBFAN
1/2 ton status
I had heard that the van 14ff's actually used a smaller axle, might be something else to check into....
blasterD
1/2 ton status
Around here van 14b's are more plentiful, but it may be different where you are at. It's probably easier to find an aftermarket axle for a truck 14b.
XtrmChevy
1/2 ton status
Smaller axle? I have a 14FF off a van and the Detroit Locker was the same as for any other 14FF.
another thing to think about, most of us have 1/2 ton trucks...a 14FF is a 1 ton axle, so whats 1"inch going to do to a one ton axle on a lighter truck...I know a toy guy running 2-1/2" spacers...
I'm running the Echobit 8 to 6 lug spacers at 1" inch each side...
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I'm running the Echobit 8 to 6 lug spacers at 1" inch each side...
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zakk
1/2 ton status
what do the spacers run? just curious
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what do the spacers run? just curious
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http://www.mcmotorsports.com/frontend/product.asp?page=1&categoryname=&categoryno=100000011
http://www.performancewheel.com/adapters.html
what do the spacers run? just curious
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http://www.mcmotorsports.com/frontend/product.asp?page=1&categoryname=&categoryno=100000011
http://www.performancewheel.com/adapters.html
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another thing to think about, most of us have 1/2 ton trucks...a 14FF is a 1 ton axle, so whats 1"inch going to do to a one ton axle on a lighter truck...I know a toy guy running 2-1/2" spacers...
I'm running the Echobit 8 to 6 lug spacers at 1" inch each side...
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I'm running 3/4" spacers but I also have custom 2.5" back spaced wheels so that puts me at around 2" from the stock location. I know of guys running 1.5" spacers with 2" back spaced wheels on toys with out issues (and that's with 38.5" SX's) ... and keep in mind that this is on the front where you have the additional complication of steering where as with at 14bolt we are talking about the rear.
Again, I say run them.
another thing to think about, most of us have 1/2 ton trucks...a 14FF is a 1 ton axle, so whats 1"inch going to do to a one ton axle on a lighter truck...I know a toy guy running 2-1/2" spacers...
I'm running the Echobit 8 to 6 lug spacers at 1" inch each side...
/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
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I'm running 3/4" spacers but I also have custom 2.5" back spaced wheels so that puts me at around 2" from the stock location. I know of guys running 1.5" spacers with 2" back spaced wheels on toys with out issues (and that's with 38.5" SX's) ... and keep in mind that this is on the front where you have the additional complication of steering where as with at 14bolt we are talking about the rear.
Again, I say run them.
