i have spent my entire work shift looking through and reading the threads in the vendor forum. i have to invite anyone who hasn't looked in there to spend some time. ck5 continues to kick a**. (if i only had 5 grand to christmas shop). if you don't have a membership with ck5 you should pony up the small sum. you'll be so glad you did. again thanks to the creators of this site and for all the people who make it what it is.