Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Chevy305, Feb 15, 2007.
This video is so badass!!
Eh, silly Chevys with their cute V8's.... 1000HP Cummins dually.
Hell ya!! Soot grinders rule!!
I love leaving stangs and camaros in a black cloud.
I could have sworn that Duramax was a 6 cyl motor, at least the one i looked at was,,,that Isuzu made thing,,,
Nope the Duramax in Chevy's trucks is a 6.6L V8 There was a V6 in development to put in Suburbans and light duty pickups i.e 1/2 tons but I am not sure what happened with that.
There is a 6 cylinder "Duramax", in the medium duty trucks.
Ya I was thinking "small 6 cylinder" not the big OTR 6 cylinders . I also assumed it was a V6
The cummins is going down this year, there is a dmax making 1000 hp with lots more left with tuning, on fuel alone without even any water/meth, and it is street driven. It is easier and cheaper to make more power with a dmax than the cummins, the cummins was been king for a long time but the dmax will take the crown this year, there will be a few in the 1000-1200hp range
thats a pretty cool video i just dont know what i would do driving something with 1000+ horsepower i wouldnt be driving it for very long thats all i can say.
The B series Cummins is an inline 6.
The Dmax and Power Strokes are all V8's.
Eh, don't get too excited yet. While the Dmax has become a serious contender giving many Dodges a run for their money, it's not top dog yet, and I doubt it will be.
A Dmax top end is stronger than a Cummins top end, but a Cummins bottom end is stronger than a Dmax bottom end.
The Dmax's are having problems with rods and mains in big HP applications, once you 0-ring a Cummins head it's ready to rock and roll for 800-900HP.
As far as the dyno run that took place a couple of months back.... there has been dozens apon dozens of Cummins Dodges that have broke the 1000HP barrier for a couple of years now.
Out of the box with a simple adjustable box, the Dmax is better than the Cummins, but not by much. stick a set of studs and a real turbo in the Dodge and it takes a Dmax on drugs to compete if it isn't running 1700* on the pyro.
i dont know man, i was watching xtreme4x4 awhile back when the did the urban gorilla, and gale banks himself specially tuned that dmax. it was cranking 700+hp and like 1400lbs tq. + on stock internals.. thats ****ing impressive!! dont care what u say.. dmax owns anything out there now a days..
I doubt dozens upon dozens of cummins have made 1000hp on straight #2, they do make good power but they have been in dodge trucks for 18 years, and in production for how long? the dmax is only 6 years old and is already showing great potential. There are a few pulling trucks, both dmax's and cummins that are obviously making huge power but will probably never see a dyno since their owners dont care for hp #'s. 1004/1958 on straight #2 on the stock block/crank, it will be a good year for the dmax, too bad mines gotta stay stock for a while, too many other toys to spend $ on.
Gale Banks is a dumb dumb..... He is not much for respected in the hot rod diesel hobby.
Yes, 700/1400 is nice, but not special. The Cummins, Dmax, and even the 7.3 all can do those numbers for you on stock internals, thats a modern deisel for you. Thats like saying someone has a 500HP small block Chevy. Sure, it's a lot of power but it's not special. It's just a really hopped up motor.
The Dmax is showing good potential, but that 1000HP Dmax didn't have stock internals....
I can honestly say I don't think either engine really has anything on the other.
I looked into both options, a cummins, and a duramax for a newer truck purchase. I also looked into upgrades. From my perspective the cummins seemed WAY cheaper and easier to mod. The parts are everywhere for a cummins, and it doesn't seem there is a ton of stuff out there for the dmax. I guess it just depends what you want to do and what you are into. For me, a cummins would be my next purchase. It just seems more affordable, plus I have a buddy who races his cummins so finding parts and tech wouldn't be a problem. His truck currently runs a 10.8 quarter mile with no drugs.
The Dmax is a little better in stock form than the Cummins.
Their turbo's seem to do a little better than the Cummins and can handle a little bit more fuel, plus with the Allison they say just a Trans-Go shift kit goes a long way. With the Dodge autos you have to do both a valve body and a different converter.
Other than that neither really has much on the other, but they both have a ton on the Fords.
The Duramax in the medium duty GMCs are still a V8....only slightly larger displacement IIRC.
A guy at my work had one of the new Duramax's with the Allison trans, i guess i didn't look hard enough at it, thought it was a v-6, but upon further invetsigation, it was a v-8.
The major thing i liked about the truck he had, was the fact as it was running, i walked by it, and almost didn't know it WAS running,,,just a slight hint of that Diesel sound. I thought this was awsome that they could quiet down a Diesel engine, and still produce some interesting numbers, with more to add with mods.
All high pressure common rail diesel engines are very quiet.....cummins included. The ability of the ECM to provide multiple injection events into a single power stroke virtually eliminates diesel knock.
and heres a good cummins puller...troy crowder
Eh, all the very new diesels with multi injection sound like crap. A diesel is supposed to sound like a diesel when you fire it up!
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