What's new
CK5
Register an account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members.

VW TDI Owners seen this?

Doing everything they can to steer people to Govt. Motors.:confused:

It's asinine since most states don't even have emissions for these cars. People who remove the emissions crap altogether are getting over 100 mpg.
 
I'm curious how they caught this?

GM did similar with the Camaro's in the 80's, but I don't think it was so nefarious.

This also probably helps explain why we don't have a ton of offerings in small diesel cars in this country. To meet emissions requirements, it's going to require DEF (if even that will do it in a car) and apparently have substantially less power.
 
The real problem is the first 3 words in the article..
"The Oboma Administration"....:doah:

If he and the EPA nazis weren't so determined to keep us from having any fuel efficient diesels and our "classics" ,there wouldn't be any "problem"..

All the diesel and antique cars account for probably 1% of all "harmful emissions"..

Pretty clever of VW to think of a "inspection delete" chip ...too bad they got caught...
 
We have the TDI for the fuel efficiency without sacrificing power. Sounds like VW was looking out for the consumers more than the "planet" I guess. I'd be curious to see how much worse the emissions really are.
 
They said 40 times the allowable limit. Not agreeing or disagreeing with the EPA rules, just what they've said the magnitude is.

I'm sure at some point, most if not all of the trucks on here were well over 40 times the allowed limit when something went wrong. :)

I don't know as they were looking out for consumers, so much as they were looking for consumers. Going to be tough to sell a diesel that gets bad economy and has no power. Even as advertised (are those emissions defeat MPG, or not?) the economy isn't that great on them IMO, the price and economy of the same car in gas is close enough that it's hard to justify the TDI.
 
Good for VW! **** the EPA! This actually makes me want to consider a VW for my next vehicle.

Where's Rich with his TDI Beetle?
 
Totally giving VW a thumbs up! This is the kind of stuff that needs to happen to keep customers happy. That's a company willing to take a risk.

The EPA should be shut down.
 
Pulled up next to a TDI jetta at a light today. I started hacking and coughing because his window was down and I thought it would be funny. He looked over and reved the engine. Then we laughed and he blew the doors off of the blazer.
 
So....The gov't says VW has to issue a recall. Who says the end-user has to do the recall? Will the emissions testers be able to tell if the device / software is enabled? I'm in a non-emissions county in Texas. Who cares?!
 
Last edited:
We are non-emission area also. Our car is still under warranty so we take it to VW for service, might mean we can't avoid getting "the fix".
 
This is all about collecting fines and money--not emissions...and if it puts VW or some other car manufacturer out of bussiness --I'm sure the government wont shed a tear..

Wonder how many other car makers have the same technology,and are using it ?..also wonder if any will decide to no longer sell cars here,if this "emission extortion" keeps up..
 
"News of the recall request also arrives in the midst of the Frankfurt Motor Show, one of the biggest events on the auto industry calendar. Volkswagen has taken over an entire exhibition hall to show off its cars, while Audi has a separate pavilion."

I'm sure this is just coincidence and that they had just wrapped up their investigation the day before.:whistle:
 
I want one!!
Best idea I have heard in years.
I wonder if something like this could be retrofitted. Sorta like the old "cut-outs" they used to use to bypass the muffler when street racing.
Chug into an inspection station with all the smog stuff running and the car barely able to run.
Drive out, flip a switch and burn the tires.

Heck, with the right equipment and computer program, some of your '80s stuff could pass 2016 standards.
Might not have much power, but who cares. Get the sticker, flip the switch and flip off the inspectors.
How is that any different than some of the stuff some of you guys have to do now to pass?
Detuning, additives, running hard just before inspection.

The law says you have to pass inspection.........

If I owned one of those cars, you would have to send armed men to force me to do the recall.
 
As much as I agree, and I have used all sorts of shenanigans to pass emissions testing in the past, I think this is really bad for VW. The only way they could have generated a worse PR scenario is if they had just announced the upholstery for the last ten years had been harvested from clubbed baby seals.
 
On one hand I don't think it's right what VW did.



On the other hand I live in CA, F*** off CARB/ EPA.
 
Here's my take, as a Detroit native and working in the auto industry all my life.

This is ....probably...the work of an overzealous group within VW that did some performance enchantment to the tune to please some testers/magazine review etc. If you don't think they all do this, think again. They do. From the info I know, the "bad" mode (or good mode was most of us would call it) is only triggered by going over 85mph once. This is sketchy preliminary info, so..take it for what it is, but nevertheless, I wouldn't say without some first hand knowledge.

A guy that works for me has a 2015 Golf with this suspect engine. 2.0 TDI. He has about 5kmi on this car. I told him, go 90 for a spell, then see after a few days how the car is performing. He reported, gas mileage went up from solid 38-42 range to 46-49 range. He reported a much more responsive turbo and just general all around better performance.

So...taking all that into account, I would surmise, the vast majority of the vehicles in question, are still compliant. The "detect" mode is going over 85mph, once. That was, ... probably..... to please some specific maganize or review test, and they somehow lost sight of the emissions in that mode.

But...it's all moot, the media is already in kill mode with a "defeat device" and "admitting" and "harmful to your health" narrative. Yeah, harmful to your health, as in every diesel prior to 2007. We're all just keeling over here for NOx emissions.

VW is admitting a couple cars presented to them seems to not meet emissions to standards as they were tested. They're admitting they don't know why. The media wants to say they knew, they did it un-purpose, without evidence. However, knowing all all OEM's sometimes doctor their tunes to meet a certain condition...this is my guess. A group tuned it to perform for some condition, and didn't take emissions output into account during that condition. And as far as I know, the condition, is, go over 85mph, then the car is in "performance mode" forever more. So...my guess...most cars have not gone over 85 and are therefor compliant, but VW is already lambasted in the media, and will have a tough go at explaining that.

Rest assured, we're all losers in this. As the EU and US will most undoubtedly make regulations for diesels even more stringent.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest Posts

Top Bottom