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blazinzuk

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I like moving my front axles forward, even so far as to have to relocate the steering box. I have never tried the arms that put the tie rod behind the axle, those may be my best solution but its kind of an expensive solution.

I plan to link Horton ( my truggy) this winter/ spring. Like many others who have done the 52/56 swap I have found the limits and the fact I know I will need new springs every year or so sucks.

I do not want to put my tie rod back down to the stock position ( another option I am looking at).

Who has used the double ended arms?

So to keep high steer and to keep my current arms (ORD) what is the collective thinking about bending the draglink forward. So the bend in the drag link will aim it forward enough to get it out of the way of the tie rod, not sure if its reasonable to bend it and clear everything else but its something I have thought about.

Anyone ever done it, seen it done, thought about it. I want to move my axle 3-5 inches forward.

Yes I know full hydro is the easiest way but right now kind of out of the budget. I don't want to link the truck twice (well twice on one end) so I want to get it linked and moved up with semi conventional steering then switch to hydro later
 
I'd just go reverse high steer. I just ordered up an entire kit from WFO Concepts and it's great quality stuff. You could buy just the arms (which are springless, another plus) and re-use all your other stuff. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it.
 
Thanks, I just noticed it was in your original post.

I'm running 52's moved all the way to the front of the stock frame with normal cross-over and stock box location. Why couldnt you run your current set-up and save for full hydro?
 
90'K5 said:
Thanks, I just noticed it was in your original post.

I'm running 52's moved all the way to the front of the stock frame with normal cross-over and stock box location. Why couldnt you run your current set-up and save for full hydro?
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I want to link it sooner than later, going to take a while to save up for both.

When I link it I want to push the axle more forwards, its as far forward as it can go now without thing running into each other. So since full hydro is the goal, and I want to link it, I would like to get the axle where I want it and then just change to full hydro, but I don't want to spend a ton of money on my conventional steering.
 
If you wanted to go about maybe 6-8" forward at minimum, you could run the backwards steering arms and run your pitman arm backwards, couldn't you?

Most pitman arms and steering arms are about 6" long, and I think the axle in the stock location is around 1" forward of the drag link being parallel to the axle with those measurements IIRC. If the axle was moved forward 12" forward from stock, I don't see why it wouldn't work besides some clearance issues I'm sure you'd have to work out. With as many of us that have the axle forward several inches with the draglink overlapping the tie rod as a result, I'd bet you could make it work with the axle only forward 9 or 10 inches from stock.

Someone shoot a hole in my reasoning here lol. The only huge issue I see if you're linking it and therefore getting the leaf spring out of the way is that the pitman arm is going to be angled off due to the slant of the steering box mount. You could adjust that mounting relatively easily though without much "fab" work.
 
owenst7 said:
If you wanted to go about maybe 6-8" forward at minimum, you could run the backwards steering arms and run your pitman arm backwards, couldn't you?

Most pitman arms and steering arms are about 6" long, and I think the axle in the stock location is around 1" forward of the drag link being parallel to the axle with those measurements IIRC. If the axle was moved forward 12" forward from stock, I don't see why it wouldn't work besides some clearance issues I'm sure you'd have to work out. With as many of us that have the axle forward several inches with the draglink overlapping the tie rod as a result, I'd bet you could make it work with the axle only forward 9 or 10 inches from stock.

Someone shoot a hole in my reasoning here lol. The only huge issue I see if you're linking it and therefore getting the leaf spring out of the way is that the pitman arm is going to be angled off due to the slant of the steering box mount. You could adjust that mounting relatively easily though without much "fab" work.
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I've read the way to do that is with an astro van box. The pitman arm faces forward on those.
 
Or do a swingset to pass frame then back to drivers side steering arm. Or run Heims and put draglink on top of arm angling forward and tierod on bottom of arms so they don't interfere with each other.
 
blazinzuk said:
I want to link it sooner than later, going to take a while to save up for both.

When I link it I want to push the axle more forwards, its as far forward as it can go now without thing running into each other. So since full hydro is the goal, and I want to link it, I would like to get the axle where I want it and then just change to full hydro, but I don't want to spend a ton of money on my conventional steering.
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Eric, If I'm following what your saying, you want to use the reversed steering arms and also use a cross over set up also, correct?

If you do that won't your steering always be be backwards, turn the wheel left, tires go right, turn the wheel right, tires go left?
 
If you go off back of steering arm/knuckkeband put your pitman arm facing forward it would correct.
 
How much are you figuring full hydro would cost you?
 
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