Welders, yeah we\'ve done iit before, got a different question. Went to the welding store today and started pricing out new units. want to get a 175 220V machine for myself. Compared three, Hobart, Miller, and Lincoln. Guy at the store said since Miller owns Hobart and through his experience he feels you are just buying the name. THe Hobart machine was the cheapest at $559(machine, gun, regulator). Anyone have experience with the Hobart to back his statements? I've always used Lincolns and wanted the lincoln 175, he quoted me $665 for the Miller 175 and said the Lincoln would be about the same, then came in $100 less for the Hobart, my ears perked up.