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went wheelin in a jeep for the first time

muddermilitia said:
Chet Krause,the guy that used to own Krause publications(they make Old cars weekly, hemmings motor news,etc.) has a 4-wheel steer Ford GP.
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That is quite possibly the rarest prototype jeep in existence.

I knew an old guy that I met through MVPA that had a Willys MA slat grill he still took to his hunting lease. :doah: Said it wasn't any use to him if he couldn't get it dirty. :crazy:
 
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i've been surprised by the limitations of jeeps. they're ok, but not the godsend they're made out to be. "TRAIL RATED" :haha:.

they have a few semi-good points:

-factory crossover steering (but they don't flex well enough to really reap the benefits)

-small, for tight trails (rendering it useless on the street. way too tight in there. plus, it's too narrow to tackle a lot of obstacles. seen that more than a few times.)

-small engines that get good mpg (oh wait, no they don't).

-light weight can be good offroad (except when you need some weight for traction, or the wimpy suspension won't let you carry any passengers or gear without bottoming out.)

-decent breakover angle (ok, i actually like that one.)

-the jeep wave (oh wait, that's totally queer)

-their gearing is nice, too

-what's up with the automatics not having overdrive for so long? wierd.

k5s are actual trucks, and can be used as such. hauling, towing, wheeling, sleeping, taking up a lot of space on the driveway....it's the swiss army knife of trucks.
 
all of the reasons you listed are why mine is still in stock go-cart form. It doesn't have enough power to break anything and fits nicely on the trailer. I don't expect it to handle anything major but its fun to play around with on two-track roads and in the woods and stuff. I think its gotten the most use cruising down the beach and it gives me an excuse to ride around wearing a brain bucket with "this side up" stenciled on it. I leave the wheeling to my chevy


EDIT: guess I walked right into that one.... EXCEPT FOR THE QUEER JEEP WAVE THING

D*mn you vortec
 
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I have to agree about there being good people driving good jeeps, but I have not met any...

I went wheeling in my ABSOLUTELY STOCK chevy 1/2 ton LWB pickup with my buddy who owns a jeep. lets just say I went first at every "trail", and ended up looping around, and pulling him back out after a quarter of the way through.

Oh and his jeep had a 6" lift, 35" TSL's, winch, and bunch of other stuff that I imediately lost intrest in.
 
big dan said:
they were discussing how jeep was owned by ford and chevy at one time. quote]

I don't believe that Willys was ever owned by Ford or Chevy.
The were bought by Kaiser in 53' and then by AMC in 72, then the Chrysler deal happened. They did however use many manufacturers parts from other makes. And have you ever looked at a Ford Jeep....they have the Ford "F" on the bolt heads.
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76zimmer said:
And have you ever looked at a Ford Jeep....they have the Ford "F" on the bolt heads.
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The gp and gpw have the "F" stamped on every part. I believe it was in late 1942 or early 1943 that the military made ford and willys take their names off the back of the jeep. They didnt want any advertising on the battlefield.
 
From Toledo "The Home of the Jeep"

The Birth of AMC.

AMC was formed in 1954 when Nash Motors and the Hudson Motor company merged. The were a small car company and one of their more know cars was the Nash Rambler. They were the real first compact car company in America.

In the late 60's the AMC Javelin entered SCCA Trans-Am competition and finished every race it entered, a record that none of the other factory teams were able to achieve. The 2-seat Javelin derivative AMX set 100 land speed records before it was even introduced for sale. When the AMX finally was available, it shook the sports car world to its knees. The AMX was available with leather seats, 140 mph speedo, A/C or gauge package, hi-po "go pak," 4 bbl 290 or 315 hp 390 V-8.

Then in the 70's the Gremlin was born (fond memories) it was the first American subcompact. At this time AMC was stable and bought Jeep from the Kaiser Corp. Around 1972 AMC police packages start turning up with many police departments, the largest buyer initially being the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office, followed by LAPD the following year. Usually the police used Matador 4 door sedans with 401 engines.

In 1976 AMC decided to drop the elongated CJ-6 from the domestic market(it would return as the Scrambler). Cherokee now had the optional "Chief" package which gave it wide wheels, fender flares from the pickups, and other sporty stuff. CJ-7 was almost entirely different than CJ-5, being 10" longer, wider, more stable, and available with a TH400 automatic from GM. The "Honcho" package was available on pickups, and gave them more sport appeal. AMC's heavy division, AM General was busy filling orders for transit buses, M915 military trucks, and postal jeeps.

In 1979 AMC still had a few tricks left plans were moving ahead at AM General for a new, larger all-purpose military vehicle. The AMC engineers worked in the Jeep tradition to create a vehicle that could not be stopped. The name of it was as yet undetermined...

Then in 1981 as they were fighting finacial troubles they introduced a new Jeep, the CJ-8 Scrambler (a CJ-6 with a divider behind seats) became the only convertible pickup on the market. The Hummer concept was in the testing stages.

In 1982 Renault was allowed to purchase 46% of AMC stock, and French were here (what happens when the French join a war?). AM General was sold to facilitate the purchase of a controlling interest of AMC by Renault. The US government wouldn't allow a foreign government (Renault is partially owned by the French government) to have a controlling interest in a majot defense supplier. To remedy the situation, and supply some much needed capital, AMG was sold to the LTV Corporation. This would cause problems twenty years down the road when AM General licensed the "Hummer" grille to General Motors for a Suburban-based lookalike. As it happens, the AM General grille is also the Jeep grille.

In 1987 Lee Iacoca made an under-the-table deal with Renault to purchase their stake in AMC. At the beginning of August, the deal was finalized, and 2% more was purchased on the open market to give Chrysler controlling interest in AMC. The payments totaled $1.1 billion in all. Many AMC employees were absorbed by Chrysler. Former-AMC engineers, stylists, and other personnel are helping to create the incredible MoPar machines of today. Indeed, some would say that the AMC engineers and managers rescued Chrysler

We have seen Chrysler build a new high tec plant in Toledo and continue to keep the Jeep in our fair city.
 
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