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What kind of winch to go with!?!?!

loafer said:
The Mile Marker hydraulic winches are good winches. I have both a 9000-lb Mile Marker and a Warn 8274 and they have both proven to be extremely durable.

On more than one occasion I've run the Mile Marker completely submerged under water. I don't think the electric models can do that...or least I don't dare try :)
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whatever I buy will be under the bed and most likely submerged... :crazy:

so I may think about saving up and getting a hydraulic whatever winch now...
 
I don't have the pictures of the bent rods on the M15000 anymore. I lost them in a disk failure (two disks failed in the period of about 15 hours) about three weeks ago.

My goal is to someday run a MileMarker 12000lb hydraulic winch on the front with a dedicated power steering pump and aftermarket valves. I then will put my multimount one on the back. If I need the electric one to get me out of a tight situation then I'll just put it on the front.
 
Go with W. I have the M15000. Pulls hard but slow. I dragged several 10 ft long, 4-6 foot diameter freshly cut palm trees out of my yard onto my father in law's car hauler trailer. One was even sideways. The first pull I made was this truck

He could barely open his door. This was at the edge of a lake that was low. When you walked on the sand, it was like a waterbed, really nasty stuff. The only problem I had was it heats up. I now have have dual red top Optima's and 1/0 welding cables from the batteries, no problems since.
 
If you are going to run a dedicated pump, why not use a real hydraulic pump?
 
bugspray said:
Go with W. I have the M15000. Pulls hard but slow. I dragged several 10 ft long, 4-6 foot diameter freshly cut palm trees out of my yard onto my father in law's car hauler trailer. One was even sideways. The first pull I made was this truck

He could barely open his door. This was at the edge of a lake that was low. When you walked on the sand, it was like a waterbed, really nasty stuff. The only problem I had was it heats up. I now have have dual red top Optima's and 1/0 welding cables from the batteries, no problems since.
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so you say the welding cable made it not run warm anymore? guess that is something to look at... I only have 1 battery but just put a second tray in. Thus I need a battery and cables....
 
Root,if you get the electric definately get the Optimas.My Warn 9000 had dual Optimas(red top) and the big cable,no issues.I like your idea of electric Ramsey front,Hydraulic rear.Sounds like a solid plan.
 
SUB-ZERO said:
Root,if you get the electric definately get the Optimas.My Warn 9000 had dual Optimas(red top) and the big cable,no issues.I like your idea of electric Ramsey front,Hydraulic rear.Sounds like a solid plan.
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err you got it backwards...

hydro front and electric rear :crazy:
 
k... here's the plan... get a winch underneath that swivles and has its own battery and won't short out submerged... then get a sweet forcefield around it so that it won't get muddy and you can use it when you're barried... that way you can use it front, back, and bottom!!! I've got that setup on my rig... :haha:
 
Good lord... Diesel, Crew cab, LB, Rockwells & 52" rubber? That truck has got to weigh 9,000lbs dry!

If you get that thing into mud to the point where you *need* a winch, you'll need an act of God more than you need a winch :D
 
I did both the 1/0 cables and dual batteries at the same time, so I don't know what to attribute the winch running cooler. The way I understand it, electrical items will starve (run hot and even burn up) if too little size of wire is used. I wanted to make sure I got plenty of juice. Funny thing is, when I installed my battery (marine) selector switch a few weeks ago, I found out that there is more wire per gauge (I doubt that's the right terminology) in the welding cable than the cable that came with the winch. That's like the difference between solid and stranded wire.

GO W !!! (no pun intended :D )
 
sounds like a serious rig. Not sure you need a 15k or 16.5k winch though. Just get a good 12,000 (I like warn) and a snatch block so you can do double line pulls. If 24,000#s of pull isn't getting you unstuck, you need a shovel, not a winch.

j
 
Anything from 9,500 lbs and up from Warn will be fine. IMHO, DO NOT buy a Milemarker.
 
79Beast said:
Anything from 9,500 lbs and up from Warn will be fine. IMHO, DO NOT buy a Milemarker.
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I even talked to a bud of mine with a 79 heep.... 304? amc motor radical cam, 33's.... nice heep.. anyway he said Mile Marker was good until it went over sees.. now they use some kind of powder steel(or something like that).. which is so brital.... thus the new ones he even said stay away from any from China.

See I didnt have a problem with staying away from them.. the only problem I had is people say to stay away and not really why.... that explanation of the steel is what I needed....

so my dirtbike is on ebay... I am going to either buy the Ramsey patriot 12,000 or 15,000 depending on how much I get for the bike.

Thanks all for input...
Jeff
 
RootBreaker said:
now they use some kind of powder steel(or something like that).. which is so brital....
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Powdered steel is simply a newer way of forming parts, and there is nothing wrong with it IF done correctly. Making a general statement that all powdered steel formed parts are brittle is not accurate at all, because just like ALL steel there are numerous types with a wide range of properties.

For more specific examples of why I would recommend staying away from MM winches:
- friend burnt out the motor on his 12k after only a few pulls
- another friend constantly has to mess with the remote and connections to make it run
- there is not anywhere near enough room on the drum for the lenght of cable they provide. Unless the pull is perfectly straight (which they seldom are) it's basically impossible to make any more than a very short pull without the cable bunching up on one side and binding......which either bends the support rods or breaks the housing. Other brands of winches do not have nearly as much problem with this.
 
6.2Blazer said:
Powdered steel is simply a newer way of forming parts, and there is nothing wrong with it IF done correctly. Making a general statement that all powdered steel formed parts are brittle is not accurate at all, because just like ALL steel there are numerous types with a wide range of properties.

For more specific examples of why I would recommend staying away from MM winches:
- friend burnt out the motor on his 12k after only a few pulls
- another friend constantly has to mess with the remote and connections to make it run
- there is not anywhere near enough room on the drum for the lenght of cable they provide. Unless the pull is perfectly straight (which they seldom are) it's basically impossible to make any more than a very short pull without the cable bunching up on one side and binding......which either bends the support rods or breaks the housing. Other brands of winches do not have nearly as much problem with this.
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thanks for the clarification... greatly appreciated :grin:
 
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