what to do what to do what to do

[blazinzuk]

No way I can afford to link the front of Horton right now. For 2 reasons. One I am not going to do it unless I can do it the way I want to.

Two, to do it the way I want to will not be cheap.

I am putting this query into the garage because more might look at it here.

So leaf springs remain in Horton.

The question is what to do up front?

I have 56s, they are stock 56s for the most part. The springs are actually redrilled so they move the axle forward an inch more than you would normally get. This annoys me because when I replace springs I need to drill a new center pin.

I want to keep the axle in its current location. I have been thinking about trying to find some 2.5 or 4" lift 56s and using those and just sucking the mounts that said amount into the frame.

Sometimes my head gets stuck on one idea and I need thrown in a different direction. What say ye. The flex will be fine as I know 2 guys who have used lifted 56s and they were stupid flexy.

Has anyone or is anyone currently using lifted 56s up front. How are they lasting? I would think I would have to come up with some sort of axle wrap control in order to make them live.

The frame makes no difference as I am rebuildling the front portion of my frame to accommodate several other mods

 

[NorCal69]

The frame makes no difference as I am rebuildling the front portion of my frame to accommodate several other mods

Like new shock hoops?

 

[Smokinthehippies]

No way I can afford to link the front of Horton right now. For 2 reasons. One I am not going to do it unless I can do it the way I want to.

Two, to do it the way I want to will not be cheap.

I am putting this query into the garage because more might look at it here.

So leaf springs remain in Horton.

The question is what to do up front?

I have 56s, they are stock 56s for the most part. The springs are actually redrilled so they move the axle forward an inch more than you would normally get. This annoys me because when I replace springs I need to drill a new center pin.

I want to keep the axle in its current location. I have been thinking about trying to find some 2.5 or 4" lift 56s and using those and just sucking the mounts that said amount into the frame.

Sometimes my head gets stuck on one idea and I need thrown in a different direction. What say ye. The flex will be fine as I know 2 guys who have used lifted 56s and they were stupid flexy.

Has anyone or is anyone currently using lifted 56s up front. How are they lasting? I would think I would have to come up with some sort of axle wrap control in order to make them live.

The frame makes no difference as I am rebuildling the front portion of my frame to accommodate several other mods

i'm sure there is a simple answer to the question but
could you not use a zero rate to move it forward?

 

[blazinzuk]

i'm sure there is a simple answer to the question but
could you not use a zero rate to move it forward?

I don't want anymore lift but I guess if I used a zero rate then I could move my spring mounts up an inch to compensate

Not a bad idea

 

[blazinzuk]

Like new shock hoops?

My shock hoops are awesome and you have no proof otherwise

 

[Smokinthehippies]

I don't want anymore lift but I guess if I used a zero rate then I could move my spring mounts up an inch to compensate

Not a bad idea

well you're already talking about going with lift springs, so whats an inch if it helps?

pm coming in hot.

 

[Bowtie85]

12 inch stock length front lift springs, now your talking ....

 

[Metrodps]

No lift for us gravitationally challenged!

 

[Fred_M1010]

Can you move the front spring hangers further forward instead of re-drilling the springs?
I don't like how the pinion angle gets worse on droop with my stock height 56" springs,
and I guess that's even worse for you if you move the axle even further forward on the spring.
Lift springs might make it even worse with their bigger arch...

I also like stock height springs since they're cheaper and much easier to find used ones.
And therefor I don't have to worry much about destroying them when I let them flex like crazy

 

[Stomis]

Radius arms on the cheap?

 

[blazinzuk]

12 inch stock length front lift springs, now your talking ....

You know I am on top of that shiz !!!!!!

Radius arms on the cheap?

I have thought about it but the money it would take even to do cheap radius arms is money that really needs to be put elsewhere.

Everything worked on Horton pretty well, just quite a bit of it was late night well this has got to go here and all the stores are closed so a it was fixed and made to work with what I had kicking around.

This go round all that stuff is gonna get changed. Pretty much includes most of the lines ( brakes tranny cooler lines fuel even the soft lines) changing all the mounts on the drivetrain, skidplates etc. Its quite a bit of little stuff that you never get done if your wheeling a ton, which when Horton is running I usually do

 

[muddermilitia]

Why can't you re-drill the the spring perches on the axle? No extra lift and it moves the axle forward

 

[blazinzuk]

Why can't you re-drill the the spring perches on the axle? No extra lift and it moves the axle forward

I want the extra lift. The purpose for that is to move the spring hangers higher into the frame. That is why I considered lift springs.

My springs are drilled 1.5" forward. I can only get 1" out of drilling the perches. I know its only .5 of an inch but it seems alot of times that .5 of an inch helps.

I am redoing the front of the frame. So the hangers are gonna have to drop down off the frame. Don't want them to look to funny

 

[chevysmithz71]

I'm running 3" BDS 56's and have had them for several years with no sagging issues. They gave me just enough over some stock ones I had before that DID sag over time. I've never seen the need to handle axle wrap since I wheel more conservatibly. Slow crawls and trails, nothing too fast. I've also made my bumper to accommodate my perches. They don't hang low to catch anything.