I had these springs made by alcan an designed by Ord. And when I measured I don't think about the wieght of drive train. I'm worried after getting the motor, trans, 205/203 doubler, winch and trail gear. That the springs will hit the frame and there as far forward as they will go. I mite just take a hit and sell them. There 8" lift, 50" long and with moving the axle fwd 3.5" I believe.



My shackles are almost vertically straight just a little angled toward the back, maybe 5 degrees.