When I think of sleeper, I think of dropping an LS3 with 6spd manual into something like this:
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What's your favorite pre-2000 Chevy car that can be used as a DD?
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Us old guys know how under powered those cars were so if you had one that had some power it would be a sleeper to us.
In all honesty, that's exactly what I would want. The problem (for me) is dropping in the manual transmission.
98-03 BMW 540i. 282 hp V8, 6 speed manual trans.
Not much decent GM stuff between '75 and '08 fitting your wants IMO.
Not much decent GM stuff between '75 and '08 fitting your wants IMO.
beags86
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BMW?
If your going that route get a E39 M5. 400hp.
If you don't know what that is, do some research.
Dad had a 79 buick lesabre 4 door. 231 v6 gave up one day. I had a 383 that I built for a drag car. Sold the car. Mom and dad left for the weekend. Brothers and i threw the SBC in it with a built th350. Buick was in the driveway when mom and dad came home. He asked why it was there and we told him we fixed the engine.
He fired it up Monday morning, walked in and asked what was in it. Told him an old engine we had lying around. He smoked the tires up the hill leaving the house. Ultimate sleeper. Spanked mustang's, cameros and corvettes regularly.
He fired it up Monday morning, walked in and asked what was in it. Told him an old engine we had lying around. He smoked the tires up the hill leaving the house. Ultimate sleeper. Spanked mustang's, cameros and corvettes regularly.
Sure, same car really. Without shopping around I was guessing the M5 was probably twice as hard to find for double the money.
Frankly, if you're looking for rear drive manual trans fun, the E36 or E46 platform is quite good too...just no V8. A Eurospec E36 M3 is a solid 12 second car that turns and stops too. I almost pulled the trigger on one a few years back...and kinda kick myself for not buying it.
Frankly, if you're looking for rear drive manual trans fun, the E36 or E46 platform is quite good too...just no V8. A Eurospec E36 M3 is a solid 12 second car that turns and stops too. I almost pulled the trigger on one a few years back...and kinda kick myself for not buying it.
The last sentence sums up my feelings on this subject too..
Not many cars since '75 period are worth the effort to make a sleeper ..mostly FWD or downsized crap styling cars are all that existed after that..
I'm not a huge fan of the front-end for this generation of S-10 but check out the condition of this truck. Would last me a lifetime and I'd be 100% GM.
https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/wd-43-v6-5-speed-low-miles/6746038483.html
https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/wd-43-v6-5-speed-low-miles/6746038483.html
beags86
Eastbound and Down
Keep it 100% the way it is on the outside, swap a LS3 with some quiet exhaust and that would be the definition of a sleeper
I think they look way better with a little bit of lift and tire. A buddy of mine had one in the 90's that I really liked.
I'll echo the Cavalier statement. The 91-94 Z24s came with a 3.1l V6 and you could get the manual transmission. It's no Vette killer but they'll book. They also came with quite a bit of chassis bracing the standard Cavaliers didn't get and with some new shocks/struts they'll handle really good and are fun to drive.
If a manual isn't entirely required, look for one of the supercharged 3.8l Bonneville or Grand Prix sedans. I'd wager they'll hold their own against one of the Impala SS cars.
If a manual isn't entirely required, look for one of the supercharged 3.8l Bonneville or Grand Prix sedans. I'd wager they'll hold their own against one of the Impala SS cars.
Denver is really delivering on low-mileage GM from '85-'95 this week:
https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/1994-chevrolet-cavalier-z24/6743612991.html
Looks clean! And $6 is a steal!
beags86
Eastbound and Down
Is a sc3800 a bolt in swap? Anyone know?
I think the 60 degree block of the 3.1 wouldn't be the same of 3.8, 90 degree block .
But damn that could be a sleeper with 300 horse......
I think the 60 degree block of the 3.1 wouldn't be the same of 3.8, 90 degree block .
But damn that could be a sleeper with 300 horse......
That would be sweet!
That's identical to my first car except mine was automatic.
