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wheel lockup in 4 wheel *updated to 4hi being busted*

Even closer inspection indicates that my 4hi is screwy. 2hi, 2lo and 4lo work fine, everything rotates. What the hell does that mean for my 4hi?
 
If you have a 203, it could be the differential inside the case.
But if you only have 2hi, 4hi and 4lo, then you don't have a 203.
If you had a 203, there would also be 4hi-loc and 4lo-loc.

I can't think of why it would be messed up in 4hi but not 4lo.

Pull the t-case drain plug and look for shrapnel.
 
I have the part time conversion, so the shift pattern changed to 4lo, 2lo, neutral, 2hi and 4hi IIRC. I'll pull the plug tomorrow and see what's up. Maybe it needs to be rebuilt?
 
Kyle Strong said:
I have the part time conversion, so the shift pattern changed to 4lo, 2lo, neutral, 2hi and 4hi IIRC. I'll pull the plug tomorrow and see what's up. Maybe it needs to be rebuilt?

Or replaced with a 205. :D
 
If I can find a 465/205 combo for relatively cheap, then they'll be dropped in my truck! It used to be a manual, but someone before me converted it to an auto...:mad:
 
Kyle Strong said:
If I can find a 465/205 combo for relatively cheap, then they'll be dropped in my truck! It used to be a manual, but someone before me converted it to an auto...:mad:

Too bad you're on the other side of the country. I've got just what you're looking for sitting in my garage. :doah:
 
Kyle Strong said:
needs rebuilt? How much+shipping? very interested.

Just needs a bearing and seal on the t-case front output (I scavenged it for my driver) and a input shaft seal on the tranny. Other than that, it came out of a running, driving '80 K10. Maybe 150k miles on it (the speedo was broken for a while). No problems shifting and the 10-spline coupler looks pristine. It's greasy as hell from the front seal leak but you get that.

I hadn't really thought much about selling it but e-mail me and maybe we can work something out. goldwing2000 at comcast dot net.
 
done. :laugh: Any idea on what the problem with my 203 might be? If it's an easy fix, I'd probably just fix it.
 
I dunno for sure. I've always owned 205s. :D

Maybe the part time kit was installed wrong or gave up? Maybe the chain took a crap? Like I said before, I can't think of why it would be messed up in 4hi but not 4lo. Got me scratchin' on that one.
 
Well see, I'm wondering too. When I put the truck on stands, 4hi's the only screwed up one. But I could have sworn that 4lo was screwed also when it was on the ground. In fact, I'm pretty sure it did. Long story short, I only had 4lo, no 4hi, when I redid the front from the u-joints out (new locking hubs, etc.). And it was doing it when I had it in 4lo...hmm
 
Unlock your hubs and drive in 4 hi-What does it do.
Lock your hubs and drive in 2hi-What does it do.

Well, I pulled the diff cover, and other than some nasty ass fluid, everything looks fine. I jack up the truck, lock in the hubs, drop the t-case into 4hi, go to turn the wheel, and the carrier, ring gear, and front drive shaft stop turning, plus I feel some resistance. The spiders are still rotating, but that's it. Is that normal?

I don't understand quite what you mean. Truck is running on stands? Everything is driving fine, but when you turn the steering wheel it starts acting up?

I still think it's something in the axle. maybe side gears are broekn, but being retained so no pieces? I would think 4 lo would be screwy too if hi was broken.

You could also get the front up off the ground with the cover off. IIRC if you spin one side the other should spin opposite. You should be able to hold obe tire and spin the other. Check very closely in the spider gear area during these checks.
 
That's what I mean. I put it on stands, rotated the tires, one spun opposite of the other, all the gears look fine. But with it on the stands, and the hubs locked and t-case in 4hi, the pinion and ring gears stop rotating, meaning the tires don't rotate past a certain point and the front driveshaft isn't rotating. IIRC it worked fine with the hubs engaged and in 2hi, and the same with it being in 4hi with them unlocked. I'll check it out more tomorrow. Everything looks to be in great condition; no cracks, nothing broken.
 
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