Wheel weight location

[jonathon]

Well I've already managed to rip off a wheel weight, not sure how but I digress..

My old set of tires had the stick on weights inside the wheel.. these they used the weights on the outside of the wheel. Didn't think much of it till I noticed a vibe start to develop and then that a weight had been ripped off a rear tire.

Before I go down to Les Scwhab and look like a retard, is the external lip weights required sometimes, or were they being lazy? If I know they can do it inside, I'll have them rebalance all 4 to prevent this same issue.

 

[dhcomp]

Most shops use clip on external style as default.

Stick on internal ones are normally designed for lipless wheels, custom wheel setups, or as requested. So no, i don't think they were trying to stick it to you, they just used their standard setup.

Really, i think the possibility of them falling off is about the same, but wouldn't hurt to try out the stick on style.

 

[pauly383]

I have managed to rip a stick on one off before , as well as countless clip on ones I don't bother balancing the truggy anymore LOL

You may want to try some of the powdery mixes they make for tires if you use the vehicle in a wheeling AND driving role . At least then if you lose one , its semi smooth sailing going home .

 

[chevyuser74]

i hate putting stick on weights to balance a tire its a pita, but yes u can balance a tire without going on the outside ridge, like said about u can try the powder bags they use to balance bigger stuff, ive heard they work.

 

[udy2554]

My plan is to try the air-soft pellets. I've lost both style weights, and I've chunked tires bad enough to cause vibration in an out of balance situation. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the pellets work!

 

[AJMBLAZER]

I've got Innovative Balancing beads in the Tracker and XL7's tires. Work great but having trouble after 2 years with the XL7. Thinking it's more tire/wheel/alignment related and not the beads.
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/
Little pricey though.

I've got Airsoft BB's in Big Ugly's tires. There's a caveat when running Airsoft BB's. They're not small and they're sorta light so you need to use them only in tires that are actually fairly true to begin with. I've heard of guys throwing them in tires and not noticing any difference and then others still getting funny vibes. In the first case I think the tires were just too out of round or lumpy or what not and the second case was probably the largish BB's not being able to get in the right place as the tire spun.
That said they work great in my tires...but I know guys who have run them with no balancing at all and they had no vibes.

 

[udy2554]

I'm running 38x15.5r16.5 Radial Swampers. Any thoughts there. Maybe conventional balancing is the way to go? I just seem to lose a lot of weight in the mud, spinning against tree roots and rock. Now I don't know which way to go

 

[tRustyK5]

Steel BB's and about a 1/2 cup of antifreeze...

Rene

 

[udy2554]

Seriously?

 

[tRustyK5]

There are many many ways to accomplish wheel balancing. For an off road rig the traditional methods are pretty much a waste of money. Wheel weights are too far from the area causing inbalance due to much larger than normal tire diameters. Factor in chunking, trees, rocks etc etc ripping them off and it just becomes frustrating.

Dynamic balancing is a much better way to go. How you accomplish the dynamic balancing is up to you. Methods i have heard used with good success include golf balls, mouse balls, ceramic beads, airsoft pellets (plastic?) bb's (lead), bb's (steel with anti freeze for corrosion prevention)

Centifugal force with put the weight at the exact area of inbalance, meaning you need less weight to get the job done. The weight required is dynamic, meaning if you chunk a tire the media will automatically adjust in mass and location.

I'd say smaller media with higher mass is likely to be best. Airsoft pellets sound good, but you need a metric assload of them inside the tire.

As with anything, do more research than the info you find in this thread. It has been discussed quite a bit over the years.

Rene

 

[AJMBLAZER]

Eh, I have like 11oz of the airsoft BB's in my tires. Probably too much. Not dirt cheap but at like $30-35 for the 45 or so ounces I used it was cheap enough.

Hard to say with Swampers. I've never had a set that big and my 33's were kinda lumpy.

BB's rust and fall apart. Guys have also reported the inside of the their tire and wheel looking shot blasted.

Golf balls fall apart too. Saw pictures on Pavement Sucks of a guy taking his tire apart to find out what happened and finding golf ball guts and not golf balls.

Heard of the powdery stuff from Semi applications getting clumpy if moisture gets in there. Definitely a possibility for those of us who go offroad and/or air down.

Some of the guys on Pavement Sucks have used the Innovative Balancing beads on BEEG tires with good results. Too rich for my blood though. That said...you could probably dump a bunch of Airsoft BB's in and then some of the Innovative beads in and the smaller beads might help fine tune the balance? That was my plan if the Airsoft BB's didn't work for me.

 

[FRIZZLEFRY]

Golf balls work well too.You can hear them bouncing around as you are comming to a stop