from what i remeber reading, WMS bought ATOR out, then i guess the owner of WMS sold WMS to who it seems everyone is having problems with. im guessing the original owner of WMS started ATOR back up as it wasn't part of the sale of WMS.81jimmyslt said:I ordered some of there fairleads about two months ago and received them no problem. But now I'm confused because they are ATOR 4x4 fairleads. When I purchased them from WMS they said they had left over stock from consolidating their ATOR department whatever that meant. So he was secretly moving his shop, changing his name or what? It seems there are a series of lies being told here.
Leper said:No, but they would promise to be there tomorrow.
That they would......
I can hear it now, "Sure, C'mon up here and we'll take care of ya. It was completely our fault. Here's our address. Of course we'll be there!" ASSHOLES!big83chevy4x4 said:from what i remeber reading, WMS bought ATOR out, then i guess the owner of WMS sold WMS to who it seems everyone is having problems with. im guessing the original owner of WMS started ATOR back up as it wasn't part of the sale of WMS.
i hope you can understand what i said, i just confused myself

koldsimer said:Exactly. That's why i'm intersted to see the thread on pirate. I've been looking for it and can't find it.
His name is Keith and he goes by ATORBUGGY over on pirate. H'ell make things right.... good luck with that man. He told me that at least 10 times. After about the third time of him flat out lying to me, he asked me what he could do to make it right. I asked him to be honest with me and any other customers that he deals with. That's exactly what I said because that's all I wanted. He promised me that he would make it right on this order and anything else I ever needed. Over the next few days, I would ask him for tracking numbers- he would give me numbers that didn't exist. He would promise me that he would overnight it the next day- still don't have my locker. I sincerely hope you get your part back soon jekbrown but I have no confidence in Keiths ethics or honesty at this point. What kind of guy would do this to us? We were his customers and wheeling brothers. I can't help but take it personally when some asshole rips me off. I hope I never meet Keith.jekbrown said:I'm not 100% sure whats going on either... but the guy in Tulsa (keith?) posted over on pirate. His screen name is ator-something-something. At any rate, he said 'PM/phone me and I'll make things right'. I PM'd him 2 days ago... no response yet. I'm gonna start calling 5 times a day if I don't hear back from him soon. I have long periods at work with nothing to do, I can sit there and phonering the guy to death if I have to. All I know is that he has my doublers intermediate shaft... and if I don't get it back, and soon, I'm gonna be forkin pissed.
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I wish I could make it right, but due to me severing ties, and my attorney adviseing against it, I'll not be having any contact with the individuals any more 

Kyle89K5 said:I'm sorry guys![]()
WMS bought ATOR out, then when WMS started to disband, the original owner from ATOR was going to buy it out. I guess that didn't work, and now ATOR has reopened on their own. Kinda.
For those that want to know, they are on 51st street between Mingo and Garnet in Tulsa, OK.
81jimmySLT, the fairleads that you got, were part of the ATOR Stock that was purchased in the ATOR buyout by WMS.
The details I have are few and far between. I feel bad, because I feel that I am partly responsible for your having dealt with this group. I brought them here, kinda like brining the snake into the henhouse, I just didn't know it was a snakeI wish I could make it right, but due to me severing ties, and my attorney adviseing against it, I'll not be having any contact with the individuals any more
Sorry. Really. This whole ordeal has just about spoiled me from wheelin' as a whole. As for you guys that see the banner and cringe, now you know how I feel. I got took too
KP
