What's sickening is about 5 years ago you could get a completely rebuilt, hub to hub with brakes, painted, Dana 60 front with a Truetrac from Boyce for $1500 and 14 bolt FF with Detroit for about a grand. The same D60 front from Boyce is now about $3,000. /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif 14 bolts are about $1800, painted and ready to go with a Detroit and gears of your choice. Not to bad when you consider the cost of a used rear plus a complete rebuild with all the goodies. I already had a 14 bolt but, it need new everything plus gears and locker. So I sold mine "as is" and I ordered the Boyce exactly the way I wanted it and the price difference between what I got for mine and what I payed for the Boyce was about what parts alone would have costed for mine and I didn't have to turn a wrench. That same formula didn't work with my Dana 60 front though because Boyce just wants too much for them so I'll keep my D60 and do it over myself. /forums/images/graemlins/grind.gif