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Which aluminum head would be best? PG 4 questions about RHS

Hmm, So if I was to go the Iron route, it would be work the extra $200-$300 for the RHS or W.P.?

Granted then I'm only like $300 away from the AFR's. I decided against getting new pistons. I really don't need to spend the extra $280 just to have that .7 more ratio.
 
4x4high....your recomendations?

I think there are a set of those at the Machine shop, Weird valve design Correct? Where the intake valves are more straight?

probably so, the intake valves are on a different plane than the exhaust valves, they resemble a bbc head. 4x4high how come they are so bad on valve guides, but the bbc isn't, when they look so much alike? not doubting you, just curious why the bbc doesn't have the same problem?

i had a mildly built 350 in a 85 or 86 Monte carlo SS that i bought from an insurance company and it had been pretty much stripped. i built a 350 for it w/ fuelie heads(camel humps) and it had a th-350 and a ford 9'' rear w/3.90 gears. i got rid of the ecm and most all electronics. it was a pretty nice ride, after i bought a 2nd totaled Monte carlo SS for the interior and ground effects, and i put a fiberglass cowl induction hood on it, it was a really fun & nice ride. i drove it for about 8 months, in this configuration.

i then swapped the heads for trick flows twisted wedge heads in mid 90's and used their headers(they looked wicked, like a ball of snakes, not like a typical header) and trick flows intake w/ a 750 vacuum secondary holley and it really woke that car up! it didn't even seem like the same car anymore! i sold it about a month later. to buy a 75 k5 and a 82 k20 that i turned into a trazer b/c the k5 body was gone,. Literally the floor was GONE! i bought the 82 k20 to use its body and axles and the k5 frame and 350/465/205.

i read somewhere that the camel hump heads aren't all the hype says they are, that gm makes better flowing production heads, that the camel humps got their rep b/c they are 64cc heads and people would replace 76cc heads w/ them and get more power due to the bump in compression, so they got the hype of being a really good head while they really aren't and gm makes newer cast heads that are better.

4x4high, what head do you think is the best production head gm has made for carb applications? what casting # should i be looking for to stockpile for carbed engines? i like the 882's as long as they aren't the ones made in Mexico. I’ve never had any trouble out of them. i have 2 sets of 882's on my shelf now for 350sbc and 1 set of 882's that came off a 400sbc, i know they were stock on the 400(everything was standard and had the factory tin head gaskets and the steam holes between the cylinders) so 882's must have been used on 350's and 400's, if gm thought they would flow well enough for a 400, they should flow really good for a 350. i have a buddy that has a factory set of 2.02/1.60 heads on his shelf, but i haven't looked to see what their casting # are yet. I’m trying to talk him out of them. to build an engine that i can run in a stock class mud truck.

the last set of vortecs i bought from gmpp had 2.00/1.55 valves and the exhaust stems were sodium filled, they have 215cc runners, & if iirc they have a 58cc combustion chamber, they are a really good running iron head,(gmpp stated that the vortecs i have will out flow phase 2 bowtie heads, straight out the box) w/gmpp aluminum dual plane intake, w/ a carter afb carb on it, but i can't run it in the stock class, so its going in my 68 c10.

i ask again though, 4x4high, if you were going to look for a certain casting # head for future rebuilds on carbed motors and save them and pull them out of the yards when you find them, which head would it be? what heads would you grab up when you run across a certain set?

i want to find a set of sb2 or sb2.2 heads and intake and put dished pistons in the engine to get it down to a 10-10.5:1 compression ratio and run it on propane, since its a single plane intake and the sb2 or sb2.2's flow better than any other head I’ve ever read the specs on.

For those who don't know about the sb2 or sb2.2 heads, they are aluminum heads that gm engineered to use in NASCAR. Their plan, was to pull production short blocks off the assembly line and bolt the sb2 heads & intake on the production 8.8 or 9.0:1 compression short block and the heads would bump the compression to something like 13-15:1 compression(that’s why i said use dished pistons to get compression down and use propane on the engine, b/c the sb2's a single plane intake and they flow like Niagara falls.) they were going to use this as an advertising point, showing that their production short blocks would stand up to the abuse, they got dished out to them on Saturday & Sundays at the races.
 
I did not read any of your reply except for the why are they bad on guides (no disrespect i'm just tired).

The reason is that the SBC has all the lifters inline unlike the BBC who's lifters are canted just as the valves themselves are which keeps the valve train geometery correct. If you rotate the valve but not the lifter you now have undue stress on the pushrod, rocker arm, and valve stem and this is why the eat intake guides.

Ok, decided i wasn't tired enough "yet" to not read your post to entirety. The 882's are an excellent flowing head but they do tend to crack if they get hot enough. CHP (Chevy High Performance) did dyno testing and they 882's flowed really well, in fact i believe the best of all SBC iron heads. The other head that is really good is the 441 casting. Every set i've ever found needed exhaust seats but they are highly sought after for the roundy round dirt track guys.
 
that absolutly makes sense, i didn't think about the sbc's lifters are straight in line while the bbc lifters are rotated like the valves. thanks for the reply, now i have to commit #441 to my memory...i forgot to say it, so i'll ask now is 441 sbc heads...i'm not into big blocks, they are just to hard to find around here, well you made a reference to ''the roundy round dirt track guys'' so i'll assume they are sbc heads, as i've yet to see a bbc dirt track car...thanks again!
 
You might spend some time looking elsewhere than summit. At one point you could get complete pro-topline (RHS is who they are now I believe) iron heads for something like $500 from a circle track place.
 
I like to use summit mostly because of how I can search for things, depending on a bunch of different specs. Kind of like a google thing.:wink1:

Their prices suck, I prefer Jegs. But I can never find anything when I'm doing research.
 
Understood. Really too bad summit is so expensive, you'd think with their buying power they'd be the cheapest around, but it ain't so.

Might try a copy of "circle track" magazine for adverts of iron head sellers.
 
The more I think about it I'm going to go with the RHS heads. 64cc, and 180cc runners.

On some of the sights, they say that it requires Comp roller rockers?
 
I like to use summit mostly because of how I can search for things, depending on a bunch of different specs. Kind of like a google thing.:wink1:

Their prices suck, I prefer Jegs. But I can never find anything when I'm doing research.

Funny I'm the oppisite way. I find that Summit is the same price as Jegs most of the time...if not cheaper. Summits website is 100% better though. For the longest time I wouldn't order from Summit since they wouldn't send me a catalog. Even though I had been requesting one and called them several times. Now I get a catalog every three weeks and a Jegs every three also.

http://www.dougherbert.com/

I've gotten a few of their catalogs. Lots of drag racing parts. I know some of their prices on heads were better than Summit/Jegs.
 
Thats a decent price, I was looking on that site earlier. The RHS heads were like 450-500 each on summit.
 
So I was doing some more research on the RHS heads, it seems that they are the same company as the old Pro-topline heads.

Anybody have any experience or incite into these heads? Apparently the old Pro-topline heads sucked, required clearancing once you got them. Required special head bolts, flow charts being bogus???:eek1:

Anybody?
 
Never heard any of that stuff about pro-topline, but they certainly made some good claims.

I believe they actually went under or something, and RHS is from New Zealand or something I think.
 
RHS as in Racing Head Service? they are in memphis TN and are part of comp performance group, which is comprised of comp cams, tci, zex, fast, proracing, powerhouse, and i cant remember who else.
 
The ford article talks about it, but RHS is an American company, always has been, and they bought Pro-Topline, who was casting heads in New Zealand before they went into bankruptcy
 
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