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Who's running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

Re: Who\'s running a 4 spd (stick) and rear discs???

compression braking. I have 3/4ton heavy duty discs all around I dont need to rely on my engine to slow me down but since you mentioned it my 1st gear low range (th350/np205) will slow me down and keep me at a nice rate of speed, just fine thanks. instead of sidestepping the subject at hand, why dont you address it or do you not have a valid response?

mike
 
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heres anouther option
[Line locks ]
tastes great
or less filling
 
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been thinking about that too. not as a leave it on type parking brake, but on the trail to hold the rig if i stalled or fludded. or if i want to jump out and leave the truck running and i'm on some kind of hill.

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I have to agree with Mike Reeh here. Ya, we may not have as much compression braking as a 4 spd(but do have a decent amount in low range) but we do have about the same crawl ration when you factor in the torqe converter multiplication and that gives us pretty decent compression braking in low range.
 
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I don't really miss my E brake. I just leave it in gear. I don't trust an E brake anyway.

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It sucks to have to turn the truck off if you want to stop on a hill. Why wouldn't you trust an e-brake? When is the last time you heard of an ebrake spontaneously releasing and sending a truck careening down a hill?

I have a 465 with rear discs, running the HAD driveline brake on it. Once you get the thing hooked up (HAD leaves this entirely up to you) the thing works great. My truck will strain against it when it's in the Granny gear. It's 10 times better than the stock e-brake was with the old 38s.
 
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Why wouldn't you trust an e-brake?

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In the mid west the ebrake cables tend to rust from the road salt if you dont use it frequently. So you can be left with the ebrake stuck on after an occational use! I have had to cut many ebrake cables with bolt cutters to get them free when I lived in IL and MN...

But a well maintained e brake is worth having for when the brake lines rust out and a light at the bottom of a hill just changed to RED. Going 55 mph + going down hill towards a red light in rush hour traffic really sucks when the brake lines blow out on you. I had that happen to me once with no ebrake but was lucky enough to be driving a 4 spd truck so I was at least able to down shift and turn at the intersection to avoid getting in a wreck.
 
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I have a 4-speed with a 14bff with discs... The ONLY timne I miss my parking brake is when I am stopped on a slope, and want to get out and leave the truck running. Other than that I don't miss it at all...I too will get a Highangle e-brake when I get around to ordering my d-shaft from Jesse, OR WINNING IT... /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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<font color="blue">I have a line-lock. Those eldorado calipers are a waste of money, IMO. The e-brake doesnt hold for crap and they're not self-adjusting.
 
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I agree, it does suck having to turn the truck off when you want to stop on a hill, however, I don't trust the E brake by itself. Even in my DD truck, if I'm on a less-than-level surface, I shut the truck off, put it in gear AND set the e brake to go anywhere.

I would consider one of Jesse's setups but I wouldn't waste my time with a stock E brake setup.

Hmm...K30 has an e brake still I think. Hmm....
 
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I'm running the 14BFF axle (from 84 1 ton 4x4 pickup) with TSM rear discs and 77 Cad calipers. My e-brake is hooked up with only a new driver's side cable added (10" longer then stock)and using the stock passenger side cable that came with the 14BFF axle. I had to shorten the cable that goes to the e-brake pedal about 6". I just cut it inhalf and inserted a turn buckle and clamped the cable ends. I adjust the cable using both the turn buckle and the stock bolt at the equalizer. The cables run under the axle and go straight up to the Caddy e-brake brackets. E-brake locks wheels up fine and holds well on hills. Send me an email and I'll send the pics. Really wasn't too difficult to hookup.
 
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Send me an email and I'll send the pics. Really wasn't too difficult to hookup.


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The e-brake doesnt hold for crap and they're not self-adjusting.

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They actually are self adjusting. But you have to USE the ebrake to adjust them. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif The jackscrew inside the piston will adjust them each time you use the ebrake. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif I've had mine completely apart for cleaning and it's a pretty clever mechanism that's inside the piston. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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don't really miss my E brake. I just leave it in gear. I don't trust an E brake anyway.

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Don't mean to turn this into a west coast/east coast thing, but in the original posters case, an e-brake is a necessity, a least IMO. At least when you apply an e-brake (and aren't so lazy that you keep it working correctly) the only way the vehicle will move is if it drags the rear tires. (front and rear if you lock the t-case/hubs)

I've been in/seen multiple instances where people aren't used to using their e-brakes, or they don't work properly, and the vehicle left the position it was occupying without warning. A couple of times in my parents driveway.

Putting the engine in gear will never equal the holding power of an actual e-brake, at least in our circumstances.
 
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I've had a vehicle move down the driveway while the tranny was in park. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif The ice was so slippery that the diff allowed one tire to spin forward, while the other spun backward. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif I set the parking brake when I pulled it back up to its proper parking spot. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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speaking of the driveway and bringing up the line lock again. could i use the line lock to hold my rig in the driveway while it warms up in the moring. in the winter i let her run for 5-10 min to warm up and defrost the windows. without a parking brake, i'd need to always have block behind the tires cause my driveway slopes. this would get old fast. the line locks in Summit say they will hold like 30s Gs. but for how long? what are the limets of these things?
 
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Nevermind /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

this is under Technical on the Hurst Roll Control

Specifications:
* 12 V negative ground systems only
* Requires additional fittings for installation
* The Roll Control not be used as an emergency brake, or in any application requiring the solenoid to be activated for a long period of time.
 
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From their application guide:

"MICO Locks are for supplemental parking and are to be used in conjunction with a vehicle’s mechanical parking brake. They perform as an operational holding brake only and are not intended to be used for prolonged parking. All MICO Brake Locks include low pressure warning switch(s) for added safety." /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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Legalese a$$ covering BS. We used to have a dinosaur forklift with a Mico-lock as the only e-brake. That thing sat all weekend every weekend with the Mico-lock engaged without ever having a problem. It is still not a mechanical brake though which is why they add the legal mumbo jumbo crap. Blow a brake line and it's just as useless as the regular brakes.

Rene
 
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