thanks desert yetti...ironically as I was junkyarding for some parts...the guy at the yard gave me a lead, without inquiring, on a 3/4 4x4 with a 400 engine built 30 over the motor is fresh. This truck is his buddies and he just wants to dump it...now I'm thinking bigger axles and better gearing...sometimes timing is just awesome. I'm going to test drive it this weekend and make sure there are no issues. For $500.00 I'll try to talk him down but I'd have a good spare motor, axles, the doors are in great shape and the tranny and transfer case...my wife just looks at me and shakes her head cause now she knows the garage isn't getting freed up.