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winch location come on throw in your view
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4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
just because you get stuck in one part of the trail, doesn't mean the rest is going to be nothing but trouble,,,, why go through the trouble of starting the trail just to give up because the tires loose traction on the way through, that MAY have been avoided by choosing a different line in the first place.
Stomis
Professional Amateur
Yes and no. Some technical trails require that you winch over obstacles or just keep a tight line to prevent yourself from rolling or going end over end backwards.
Lots of people put one front and rear but the truth is if your stuck trail riding you want to go further past the obstacle. If your stuck mudding obviously you want to go backwards but you should have someone there to pull you really.
Lots of people put one front and rear but the truth is if your stuck trail riding you want to go further past the obstacle. If your stuck mudding obviously you want to go backwards but you should have someone there to pull you really.
ZukiJohn
1/2 ton status
Winches
One in the front and one in the back or a multi mount.....Thats the way I roll....
One in the front and one in the back or a multi mount.....Thats the way I roll....
Hubnut
1/2 ton status
Use one on both ends!
chulisohombre
1/2 ton status
i always liked the idea of having a hitch mounted wench.that way you could have 1 winch pullin double duty when you needed it.just have to figure out some kind of quick connect terminals connections at both ends of the rig.
Sounds good in theory, but I wonder how awesome it would be in real life...
Receiver mounted winches stick WAY out in front (or back) so odds are that you aren't going to have it connected on a tough rocky trail. It's going to ruin your approach angle. Then, you get stuck on a really steep and rocky section...maybe even get a little tipped to one side. Time to climb into the back of the truck to get the winch and carry that bulky 100+Lbs up a bunch of rocks without killing yourself or dropping the winch in the process.
Hopefully the front reciever hitch isn't too close to a rock or other obstacle or you won't be able to slide the receiver in place to get it locked down.
If all goes well, you're in business..... but it sure seems like a LOT of hassle. PLUS, and this is a BIG issue... do you really want a 100Lb winch rolling around in the back of the truck while you're on the trail. What if you roll or flop? That wrecking ball is going to kill someone and/or do a massive amount of damage to everything it hits.
I used to be really convinced that a removable winch was the bees-knees, but as I've thought about it more and more, the less I think it's the right way to go. A hidden front winch saves you from excessive overhang and will get you out of most problems. If you really need a rear pull, there's probably a way to rig it with some tree savers and a snatch block or two... plus, nobody wheels alone right
so someone else could always throw a strap on ya and give you a tug backwards if needed.
chulisohombre
1/2 ton status
thats true greg,just would suck to have to need it in reverse if you are in the rear of the convoy and needed to back up to restart an obstacle and couldnt.if its inside the cab it would need to be bolted down somewhere or properly secured so it doesnt become a projectile.it would definitely suck if you were stuck nose down and couldnt get the winch attached.but you could pull yourself in reverse to a place where the front wench mount could be used.like i said i just always liked that option of using it on either side.would probably be easier to hard mount it in a good front bumper though.definitely some good things to think about.
yup, for as "neat" and "thrifty" of an idea that the multi-mount is, personally, I don't find those to outweigh the bad... for the reasons Greg mentioned, plus I don't like the plug aspect of it.. not to mention, a rear winch is just freakin badarse....
only one? hidden up front...
only one? hidden up front...
For quite some time I thought I would do a multi mount winch. Makes sense right?
Well yes and no. I have seen plenty of times where the guys with the multimount winches could not get them on when stuck, now the flip side to this is they could always get them on one end, usually not the one they wanted.
Another thing about multimounts is if you are on a hard side pull I have seen the square tube on the multi mount bend
Something else is the fact that on occasion pulling backwards may cause more damage then pulling frontwards. Most of the time you can get a rig behind you but not always in front of you
Hence the reason mine is mounted permanently on front
Well yes and no. I have seen plenty of times where the guys with the multimount winches could not get them on when stuck, now the flip side to this is they could always get them on one end, usually not the one they wanted.
Another thing about multimounts is if you are on a hard side pull I have seen the square tube on the multi mount bend
Something else is the fact that on occasion pulling backwards may cause more damage then pulling frontwards. Most of the time you can get a rig behind you but not always in front of you
Hence the reason mine is mounted permanently on front
Everybody I wheel with has a permanently mounted front winch, and I've never seen nor heard anybody say "I wish I had a rear mounted winch". Honestly I don't remember ever using my winch when I was completely stuck (as could not move forward or backwards) as it only gets used on a technical part of the trail when I simply can't get over an obstacle or over a part of a hill. On these technical trails it's usually not easy to get another vehicle to you, or you need the much more controlled pull of a winch. When getting stuck in ruts or a mud hole its usually quicker and easier to slap a strap onto another vehicle and give it a tug.
I definitely don't agree with the "if you get stuck, why go further" idea when on a trail. Maybe if you get stuck in the first 10 feet of a 100 yard mud bog, but on a normal trail the average winch pull is probably 2' and then you are good to go. If I turned around on a trail whenever I got stuck (i.e. couldn't go further forward without help) then there would be a lot of trail I would have never of seen.
I definitely don't agree with the "if you get stuck, why go further" idea when on a trail. Maybe if you get stuck in the first 10 feet of a 100 yard mud bog, but on a normal trail the average winch pull is probably 2' and then you are good to go. If I turned around on a trail whenever I got stuck (i.e. couldn't go further forward without help) then there would be a lot of trail I would have never of seen.
keep in mind that my winch is mounted really high up and moved back, even when I build my "nice" blazer just for trailriding the winch will get mounted up high and probably recessed into the grille somewhat.
loafer
1/2 ton status
The optimist puts the winch in the front. The pessimist puts it in the rear
Here is a pic of mine
