Yep, there it is. Press the studs out and you'll soon find out that the rotor seperates from the hub. I can see the parting line in the pics even. 
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Yet another rear disk question
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original balzer
1/2 ton status
Yep, there it is. Press the studs out and you'll soon find out that the rotor seperates from the hub. I can see the parting line in the pics even.
No you cant its 1 FOCKIN piece we allready pulled it off. the only thing you might be mistaken as a separation line is the ridge the hub hole of the wheel rides on.
No use in arguing with you. ANYONE on this site will tell you there is a rotor and a hub that are separate pieces. Have you pressed the studs out and tapped on the hub so that the rotor falls off. If you were closer i would be more than happy to prove you wrong.
Here's a better idea, why don't you go to the parts store and tell them that you need a new one piece hub/rotor assembly for an 83 and see if they have a listing.
Here's a better idea, why don't you go to the parts store and tell them that you need a new one piece hub/rotor assembly for an 83 and see if they have a listing.
Wrong again, the rotors mount to the back side of the hub and the wheel studs go through the rotor and then press into the hub to hold the rotors to the hub.
79rustyk10
3/4 ton status
That is not a one piece hub/rotor assembly.
original balzer
1/2 ton status
Yea it doesnt really matter I have new ones on the way that dont have grooves worn into them.
Maybe I am wrong but I just do not see where they would come appart.
the hub steps up for the rim to ride on then curves right into the rotor there is no separation.
Maybe I am wrong but I just do not see where they would come appart.
the hub steps up for the rim to ride on then curves right into the rotor there is no separation.
original balzer
1/2 ton status
Do you mean like the rear drums?
AHHH hell man Im sorry I see it now. In the pic below. But you could have told me that rather than telling me I need a 4wd and what I have is a 2wd. It would have saved a lot of arguing. The implication that I was dealing with a 2wd rotor is what set me off. So once again I am sorry.
To be honest I usually dont have time to do brakes myself and usually pay big O to do them. I know the rotors just slide right off on 88+ trucks, I was under the impression the earlier rotors did as well.
Anyway you can kinda see the 1 bad groove in that rotor and the inside has worse grooves. So the new rotors are going to be better anyway.
Five hours ago you were very adamant that yours were one piece, now "maybe you're wrong". Which is it?
Do you mean like the rear drums?
AHHH hell man Im sorry I see it now. In the pic below. But you could have told me that rather than telling me I need a 4wd and what I have is a 2wd. It would have saved a lot of arguing. The implication that I was dealing with a 2wd rotor is what set me off. So once again I am sorry.
To be honest I usually dont have time to do brakes myself and usually pay big O to do them. I know the rotors just slide right off on 88+ trucks, I was under the impression the earlier rotors did as well.
Anyway you can kinda see the 1 bad groove in that rotor and the inside has worse grooves. So the new rotors are going to be better anyway.
Yes, they separate at the red line you have there. I also only said you must have a 2WD rotor since the hub/rotor ARE one piece on those and i did not even look at what your vehicle was.
original balzer
1/2 ton status
I was upset that you made it out to seam like I dont know the differnce between a 2wd and a 4wd. You didnt make yourself very clear, other than just telling me I was wrong. NO explaination just wrong and telling me I need a 4wd rotor not a 2wd rotor. I may have been wrong about the rotor hub but I think you can agree its not a 2wd as you sugested.
It's absolutely not a 2WD. My argument came when you said you had a one piece hub/rotor from a 4WD.
Oh well, can we shake and make up now.
And just to clarify, this was from several posts up.
I think that was pretty clear what i was talking about.
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Oh well, can we shake and make up now.
And just to clarify, this was from several posts up.
I think that was pretty clear what i was talking about.
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original balzer
1/2 ton status
Yep water off a ducks back its no big deal since I got the answers I was looking for.
Now I need another answer though are all 73-87 front rotors pinned on with the studs? or just 8 lug? or certain year and newer?
One of the reasons I have always let big O do my brakes is so they could turn the rotors if they needed it. The only vehicle I have ever had to replace a rotor on was my 97 1500 when I first got it the driver side rotor was worn clear into the center vent portion. The outside brake surface of the rotor was ok but the inside surface was gone. I also had to replace the caliper as it was messed up as well.
Now I need another answer though are all 73-87 front rotors pinned on with the studs? or just 8 lug? or certain year and newer?
One of the reasons I have always let big O do my brakes is so they could turn the rotors if they needed it. The only vehicle I have ever had to replace a rotor on was my 97 1500 when I first got it the driver side rotor was worn clear into the center vent portion. The outside brake surface of the rotor was ok but the inside surface was gone. I also had to replace the caliper as it was messed up as well.
ALL 4WD rotors from 73-87 (91 blazer, burb, OBS 1 ton) are all pressed from behind the hub regardless of 1/2. 3/4, or 1 ton.
Stomis
Professional Amateur
Hmmm never seen a drum pressed on but then again my 14b is a custom frankenstein.
Could someone throw up a couple more pictures of pressed on drums just so when i do have to deal with them I'm not scratching my head.
blazin_blazer
1/2 ton status
Ok these 2 answer the main question and since nobody has ever said anything about boring the holes in the rotor I assume they fit.
just to be on the safe side I ordered rotors and calipers for a 1975 gmc 3/4 ton 4x4. Did I order the right ones?
yea, when you get your new brakes, you have 16 studs to press out and press back thru and your assembly will look like the 1's in post # 19...they say have the rotors turned after placing it on the hub...and be careful about the recess in the rear of hat, where stud head mate is square with the world & not part of stud head in recess and part out..makin stud angled!
Tim what calipers (the ones in post #17) are you using that have the E brake arm on them. Where can I get some of them ?
The only e-brake calipers that will work on a 14ff are from a 76-78 caddy eldo.
original balzer
1/2 ton status
Here you can see the hub and drum still together
Here is the hub without the drum
Here is the inside of the drum with the heads of the studs and the back side of the hub.
Stomis
Professional Amateur
WOW Thank you for the pics.
What a stupid design...
What a stupid design...
