14b disc conv....? are you doing to protect the inner hub seals?

[RoTuN]

Just wondering if anyone has come up with a solution to the inner hub seals being exposed after doing the disc conversion........................

 

[munepit]

Never even thought about it. The wheel protects it.

 

[76zimmer]

Yeah, my wheels are 9.75, and 4.5 bs, so the tire is tucked in pretty far on the axle housing from trail debris.

 

[RoTuN]

Yeah, I realize the wheel will shield alot of it but I also know the OEM design has the backing plate to protect it from the elements so it is only subject to brake dust. I'm concerned about sand, rocks, mud, snow, ice, etc., especially ice build up with where I will be going. Would hate to have to replace a seal after every trip.

Anybody ever have issues with debris destroying these seals?

I am in the middle of a pretty simple solution, will post if it works.

 

[Deuling]

Will front axle back plate things fit?

 

[munepit]

Yeah, I realize the wheel will shield alot of it but I also know the OEM design has the backing plate to protect it from the elements so it is only subject to brake dust. I'm concerned about sand, rocks, mud, snow, ice, etc., especially ice build up with where I will be going. Would hate to have to replace a seal after every trip.

Anybody ever have issues with debris destroying these seals?

I am in the middle of a pretty simple solution, will post if it works.

Hell, Post if it doesn't! I wanna see! Maybe you could revise it with some ideas from the brotherhood!

 

[RoTuN]

Will front axle back plate things fit?

I did think about that but the calipers shot that to hell...

 

[RoTuN]

o.k. so I had 2 different prospects.........


#1

didn't like this one due to not enough pressure on the rubber to the backside of the hub, could see that in colder temps the rubber might get to stiff and break the seal. Would probably work well in constant warm climates though.

#2 Is what I'm going to go with as it is much beefier piece of rubber with a hose clamp to keep in place.

before trimming

after trimming (hub not all the way back yet)

Hub all the way in now........................

I might have to trim more off the back edge (under the hose clamp) to get a better seal around the hub, I greased the $hit outta the back edge of the hub and the inside of the rubber as it is sealing against each other but not too much pressure, the thicker rubber is pushing to the backside of the hub but not enough to cause too much friction.

 

[Deuling]

I did think about that but the calipers shot that to hell...

Could they be modified in some way? cut up where they dont fit?
What if you were to take everything off the spindle and then take a cylinder that would fit over the seal and into the rotor a little, weld it to a plate that bolts to those 4 bolts, drill a hole or two in the bottom for water and junk to get out, maybe one on top so that if you really get crud in there a hose could blow junk out. Done

Edit: oh great idea man. Never woulda thought fernco.

 

[RoTuN]

Could they be modified in some way? cut up where they dont fit?
What if you were to take everything off the spindle and then take a cylinder that would fit over the seal and into the rotor a little, weld it to a plate that bolts to those 4 bolts, drill a hole or two in the bottom for water and junk to get out, maybe one on top so that if you really get crud in there a hose could blow junk out. Done

That was my first thought to get a steel collar with a flange to bolt under the caliper mounts but was thinking it might become more of a "holder" of debris not being able to seal with thin plating. And the salt from the road would just eat thin steel so I stumbled on the rubber pipe sleeve seals.

 

[RoTuN]

The first one is a 2" storm collar (Oatey?)

Second is Fernco, part # P1056-42

Had to heat up the 2" side really good and grease the stub to get it on, nice tight fit even before the clamp went on.

 

[Deuling]

The first one is a 2" storm collar (Oatey?)

Second is Fernco, part # P1056-42

Had to heat up the 2" side really good and grease the stub to get it on, nice tight fit even before the clamp went on.

Its a great idea, the taper will allow junk to drip out nicely. Good call!!

 

[sweetk30]

runnin disk for years up here in the salty dirty north east no problems.

lots of mud / snow / dirt / dd use.

 

[RoTuN]

Good to know, thank you.

 

[munepit]

Its a good idea. Ideas are where the money is. Wonder if you came up with something and sold the idea or product to a co. to sell.

I like it though.

 

[RoTuN]

I have had many ideas only to find someone else has patented already. On to what I'm trying to accomplish...........

I cut, and cut, and modified the pipe coupler but due to the inside angles can't get a seal I'm happy with so I went back to the Oatey storm collar and worked with its placement and am much happier with the results. No modifying, cutting, etc. just need to pack the inside with grease and put a zip tie on the axle tube and it actually has 2 barriers for crap to go through before it gets to the seal. This is alot simpler and I believe will work just as well. The zip tie will keep the collar from sliding to the inside of the axle tube, other than that the pressure it puts on the hub is enough to keep stuff out but not too much to burn when rolling.

 

[63chevyll]

Pretty cool idea.

 

[RoTuN]

Thanks! So here's the final results..............used self amalgamating tape and a fat zip tie until the tape cures.

inside measurements..........................

outside measurements.........................

and a look underneath the first "barrier" showing the second "barrier".

from the inside off spindle.......................

 

[mudbuggy]

Good chit boys! Subscribed

 

[EIB8400]

Wow.. never even crossed my mind till now.