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14b front axle (old thread 2005)

Re: 14 BOLT FRONT AXLE

You've got me tempted to do the same thing with a D70HD rear I've got in the garage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Only I would offset the differential housing to the passenger side as far as I could to where the inside u-bolt will sit right on the side of the housing where the tube goes in.

Now I'm thinking of trying to find some D60 knuckles, C's, spindles, etc. to make a D70HD front axle. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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Correct me if im wrong, but once you get it all hooked up wont the front want to spin in the opposite direction as the rear? im nearly guarinting(sp?) that it will unless you have allready thought of that and come up with a way to combat the situation. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
 
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if GM front driveshafts spin clockwise when moving forward when yopure looking at front of truck then i would think you would need reverse gears
 
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You've got me tempted to do the same thing with a D70HD rear I've got in the garage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Only I would offset the differential housing to the passenger side as far as I could to where the inside u-bolt will sit right on the side of the housing where the tube goes in.

Now I'm thinking of trying to find some D60 knuckles, C's, spindles, etc. to make a D70HD front axle. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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I was debating getting a HP 60 and re tubing it to the passengers side, just as you explained, but, eh, maybe next time! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Yes I did think of that.
If your looking at the front of the truck, the driveshaft would spin to the right, ring gear being on the left side of the pinion, it would be like you were in reverse, running on the Coast side of the ring gear.
 
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Guys, think of your front axles. Unless you have a high pinion, you are running on the coast side of the gears. Just like his 14Bolt is now. Is it weaker, yes, but, how many of you running front LP 60's have broken a ring and pinion.

Nice work, it looks good. I dont really understand it, but its cool.
 
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I was wondering when someone would catch on. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif

I don't know about you guys but I've never seen two different gearsets for ten bolts front and rear. /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif

I am still wondering what he's going to do for gears... is it going to be the elusive 5.13s? The nice thing about the 14FF is that you can have deep gears like 5.13s and still have decent contact. The Furd 9" is great for deep gears because contact area actually increases with the lower the gear ratio.
 
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You've got me tempted to do the same thing with a D70HD rear I've got in the garage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Only I would offset the differential housing to the passenger side as far as I could to where the inside u-bolt will sit right on the side of the housing where the tube goes in.

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If I were to do this I would put the diff on the driver's side. It just makes no sense to have it on the passenger side and I think GM really dropped the ball on that one.

When you're out crawling your blind side is always the passenger side. IMO its much easier to stick your head out the window and look at where the driver's front tire is going and pretty much you can factor in your clearance much easier.

Obviously many people wheel Chevy trucks and have for decades now and I'm sure that many don't feel the same way I do, but I know that if I ever spent the cash to make a custom front axle, I'm going driver's side. (probably never, but just my thoughts on if I ever had more money than brains and needed to do something like build a custom axle)
 
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You've got me tempted to do the same thing with a D70HD rear I've got in the garage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Only I would offset the differential housing to the passenger side as far as I could to where the inside u-bolt will sit right on the side of the housing where the tube goes in.

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If I were to do this I would put the diff on the driver's side. It just makes no sense to have it on the passenger side and I think GM really dropped the ball on that one.

When you're out crawling your blind side is always the passenger side. IMO its much easier to stick your head out the window and look at where the driver's front tire is going and pretty much you can factor in your clearance much easier.

Obviously many people wheel Chevy trucks and have for decades now and I'm sure that many don't feel the same way I do, but I know that if I ever spent the cash to make a custom front axle, I'm going driver's side. (probably never, but just my thoughts on if I ever had more money than brains and needed to do something like build a custom axle)

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I understand but understand my philosophy: Keep your GM all GM. Sorry, no Ford parts on my rigs. Except for the F150 pitman arms for crossover, thats all. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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Keep your GM all GM. Sorry, no Ford parts on my rigs. Except for the F150 pitman arms for crossover, thats all.

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Also allowed are *ord shock towers.
 
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You've got me tempted to do the same thing with a D70HD rear I've got in the garage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Only I would offset the differential housing to the passenger side as far as I could to where the inside u-bolt will sit right on the side of the housing where the tube goes in.

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If I were to do this I would put the diff on the driver's side. It just makes no sense to have it on the passenger side and I think GM really dropped the ball on that one.

When you're out crawling your blind side is always the passenger side. IMO its much easier to stick your head out the window and look at where the driver's front tire is going and pretty much you can factor in your clearance much easier.

Obviously many people wheel Chevy trucks and have for decades now and I'm sure that many don't feel the same way I do, but I know that if I ever spent the cash to make a custom front axle, I'm going driver's side. (probably never, but just my thoughts on if I ever had more money than brains and needed to do something like build a custom axle)

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I understand but understand my philosophy: Keep your GM all GM. Sorry, no Ford parts on my rigs. Except for the F150 pitman arms for crossover, thats all. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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Axle would be custom and transfer case would be Ford but that's New Process anyway, not really GM so I am really not seeing where the Ford parts are in that combo.

GM 205, Ford 205, same thing......
 
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You've got me tempted to do the same thing with a D70HD rear I've got in the garage. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Only I would offset the differential housing to the passenger side as far as I could to where the inside u-bolt will sit right on the side of the housing where the tube goes in.

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If I were to do this I would put the diff on the driver's side. It just makes no sense to have it on the passenger side and I think GM really dropped the ball on that one.

When you're out crawling your blind side is always the passenger side. IMO its much easier to stick your head out the window and look at where the driver's front tire is going and pretty much you can factor in your clearance much easier.

Obviously many people wheel Chevy trucks and have for decades now and I'm sure that many don't feel the same way I do, but I know that if I ever spent the cash to make a custom front axle, I'm going driver's side. (probably never, but just my thoughts on if I ever had more money than brains and needed to do something like build a custom axle)

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I understand but understand my philosophy: Keep your GM all GM. Sorry, no Ford parts on my rigs. Except for the F150 pitman arms for crossover, thats all. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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Axle would be custom and transfer case would be Ford but that's New Process anyway, not really GM so I am really not seeing where the Ford parts are in that combo.

GM 205, Ford 205, same thing......

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Not quite. You're still gonna have to remove the Ford input shaft to fit a GM input in order to mate it to the tranny of your choice. Too much if you ask me. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
 
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If I ever went to the trouble of a hybrid axle, it would be a Mog 9 (Mog portals and 9" center) or a 69 (D60 knucks and 9" center). I like the 9 due to strength, options, clearance, weight, easy service, and it's extemely common with great parts selection.

[Edit] And while we're talking about Ford on GM, what about 31 spline 205 inputs, 32 spline front 205 outputs, hi-pinion 60s, 57" springs, bronco coils on some of the coil conversions, pitman arm and shock towers (already mentioned), starter relays, and I'm sure there is more...
 
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Not quite. You're still gonna have to remove the Ford input shaft to fit a GM input in order to mate it to the tranny of your choice. Too much if you ask me. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

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You're talking about fabricating an entire axle, and changing an input shaft is a big deal? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
 
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Not quite. You're still gonna have to remove the Ford input shaft to fit a GM input in order to mate it to the tranny of your choice. Too much if you ask me. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

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You're talking about fabricating an entire axle, and changing an input shaft is a big deal? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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Yes, especially when I want the truck to remain all GM. Matter of fact, the D70HD I have is all pure GM from a dually 4x4.

BTW, wouldn't it be cool to have a front D70 with 4" tubes? /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
 
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Well to each his own, but no matter what, I couldn't resist moving my diff to the passenger side if I had the time/money.
 
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Those knuckles on that axle look like Ford knuckles, are they? If so, might want to address strength issues before completing your mini-monster.
 
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Well to each his own, but no matter what, I couldn't resist moving my diff to the passenger side if I had the time/money.

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Just make sure you have a high pinion axle if you put it on the drivers side. either that or reverse rotation, low pinion, or GM Tcase mounted upside down... You need to consider which way things rotate or your front axle could be in reverse while the rear was going forward.
 
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both drivesafts rotate in the same direction. So think of it this way looking from the t-case to the real rear end the drive shaft is spining clockwise wich makesthe truck go forward. Now that same shaft is conected to the front spining the same way would then want the front to go in reverse.im positive /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif how do you plan on combating this problem?? /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif
 
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