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2 frames

2 frames, that's it? Don't be a wimp, stack 'em 4 high. That'll give you that extra clearance so you can run 80" tires.
 
With me it's not a question of "should you" it's "why would you want to".Yeah it's a free lift,but if you count the time and materials spent doing it you could work that many hours part time flipping burgers at Mickey D's and buy a lift with the money.To me the answer of a free lift kit is not a good one.It just dont make much sense to me.
 
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Free lift = cutting blades for the grinder.


Well, not free but cheaper than anything else.
 
You're putting all that extra weight up by the CG. Then you're depending on the strength of the welds and ability of the welder.


FAR easier and faster, and arguably cheaper in the long run, to just buy a proper lift.
 
I really don't see why you'd want to do stacked frames. :confused: Seems like a lot of work to make an ugly heavy vehicle. How 'bout this for a practical solution: Work a part time job (in addition to your normal job) spending the time you'd spend welding the frames together working, saving $ for a lift kit. Lift: 10" lift kit yeah, it'd ride crappy but, you can get it cheap, and it's just for mud so... It wouldn't cost much more than the materials for the stacked frame idea, it'd look better, it'd be lighter, it'd be safer, it'd take a lot less time. What's the advantage to running the two frames? I just can't see it.:confused:
 
Just cut the **** out of the fenders. Someone go dig up the "very little lift and big tires" thread.
 
I really don't see why you'd want to do stacked frames. :confused: Seems like a lot of work to make an ugly heavy vehicle. How 'bout this for a practical solution: Work a part time job (in addition to your normal job) spending the time you'd spend welding the frames together working, saving $ for a lift kit. Lift: 10" lift kit yeah, it'd ride crappy but, you can get it cheap, and it's just for mud so... It wouldn't cost much more than the materials for the stacked frame idea, it'd look better, it'd be lighter, it'd be safer, it'd take a lot less time. What's the advantage to running the two frames? I just can't see it.:confused:
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Ahaha, this thread is starting to heat up. Don't get me wrong guys, I wouldn't run a stacked frame myself cause I know there is better ways to get the job done but I'm just trying to shed some light on "the other side of the story" that seems to so often be neglected.

If you had 2 frames anyways, you like fabbing and are confident in your skills, you have some sort of sense of what forces are acting on this thing, and you are building a non street truck I would say be my guest. It'll be ugly and heavy as hell but it'll work. Thats all I'm saying!

I'm out!

RustBuket
 
Well this being a mud truck i'm gonna imagine it having HUGE tires. Meaning he can cut to fit the tires resulting in probably an inch of fender left or he can just take off the front and rear fenders.

I personally see this thread going nowhere but downhill. The guy's gonna run it if he thinks it's fine. I by no means agree with putting yourself in danger but if he has enough confidence in building it i say go for it. I could never do it myself cause i lack the ability to even think about something like this
 
I'm "that guy with the stacked frames" I stopped caring what other "experts" said about it. its strong, very strong. I didn't weld anything I used 1/4 x 6 plates at various lengths and bolted it together. 12 3/8 grade 8 bolts per connection 1 connection near each spring hanger. I've run it for years, no frame related breakage... ever. I stripped all the body mounts off the lower frame and all the suspension mounts off the upper frame. it adds maybe 200 pounds to the blazer. last year I added a tilt nose off of our retired municipal garbage truck, When I did that I no longer needed front body mounts so I trimmed off the upper frame near the front cab mounts. now I run 44" boggers my drivelines see 4" of lift. all my drivetrain is in the lower frame my CG is damn low for running 44s. most body lifts are max 3" I had that in my first 4x4 (a 3/4 ton pickup) it was floppy I hated it. The body on my blazer is solidly mounted with factory mounts to the upper frame. I have a 4" spring lift, I don't even have the shackles flipped. Now I live up north in the land of deep snow so I don't wheel year round I take advantage of the winter months to rebuild my junk every winter. At the moment I have the body on the floor and i'm installing a doubler and a few other custom touches. there is nothing wrong with stacking frames if you take the time to figure out where you are going with it. I agree it's probably not a great setup for rockcrawling but I have few rocks in my area. I'll look for some now that I have a doubler. i'll add a few pics. I have some old 33s on it to roll around the shop on it.
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Sorry if I sound pissed off, but the tone of this thread reminds me of pirate...
 
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