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2007 Xterra:Terry's Bolt On Wheeler

swettysblazer said:
What's the game plan? ARB?
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Right now, cram another OEM E-locker in and get it mobile.

If I can get an aftermarket company to make some slightly longer shafts that fully engage the splines in the spiders, I'll probably stick with this setup till I'm ready for another wheeler.

If not, it might be time to move into a Jeep or back to a K5. Or possibly go with ARBs in Titan diffs and start cutting for 35s.
 
Try calling Branik Motorsports.

I had them custom build some front shafts for a 609 we put in a CJ, and they were cheaper than expected and super quick.
 
So far so good. I'll change the oil this weekend to clear out the debris and then again after a couple hundred more miles to see how it's doing.

Now time to clean it all up and figure out what else needs attention.
 
Did the oil change on the rear diff today. Oil looked pretty good that came out. Not much debris in it and while it was darkened a bit from the heat from the break in of the new bearings, it looked good overall.

In the planning stages of parting the Xterra out this spring and going to a LJ though.
 
TerryD said:
Did the oil change on the rear diff today. Oil looked pretty good that came out. Not much debris in it and while it was darkened a bit from the heat from the break in of the new bearings, it looked good overall.

In the planning stages of parting the Xterra out this spring and going to a LJ though.
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have you priced LJs lately?
 
I'm looking for an Auto and it doesn't have to be a Rubicon. That helps.

I'm wanting to replace the X with it so 35s should be enough for what I want to do.

I'm just fed up with how much of a hassle it is to get basic replacement parts and the lack of things to make it really capable without a lot of compromises.
 
Well, talked it out with the wife and have decided to hang on to the Xterra for a bit longer.

I'm going to try to get some custom shafts made for my rear to fully engage the spider gears so they don't explode again. Hopefully that'll fix that issue.
 
Longer shafts won’t fix anything. Those side gears, not spiders, are only as strong as they are. And they are the exact same piece in the JK rear axle. So if your breaking this, you will break that.

Spiders are the little gears between each side gear.
 
Side gear, that's right.

But I disagree with the engagement.

You can see here that it split the side gear right up to where the real meat of it is.

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And when you look at the shaft, it's a full 1/3rd of the gear from fully engaging the splines. There's a lot of loss in the capabilities of that side gear in that.

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I would think that since it's always the Xterra and Frontier's passenger side shaft and side gear that do this on the e-lockers, it's an engineering short-fall. And an additional 1/2" of shaft fully engaging the side gear splines will improve this issue.

If I had blown it, spinning 37s in the rocks, I would be more likely to agree with you. But I've seen a bunch of broken shafts with splines intact, from D30s to big bearing 9" Fords and 35spl D60 stuff. This is a BEEFY 32 spline shaft on 33s, this shouldn't have happened.
 
Any 1/2 ton parts swap in? I know some of the Titan front parts can be swapped in. How about the rear?
 
TerryD said:
Side gear, that's right.

But I disagree with the engagement.

You can see here that it split the side gear right up to where the real meat of it is.

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And when you look at the shaft, it's a full 1/3rd of the gear from fully engaging the splines. There's a lot of loss in the capabilities of that side gear in that.

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I would think that since it's always the Xterra and Frontier's passenger side shaft and side gear that do this on the e-lockers, it's an engineering short-fall. And an additional 1/2" of shaft fully engaging the side gear splines will improve this issue.

If I had blown it, spinning 37s in the rocks, I would be more likely to agree with you. But I've seen a bunch of broken shafts with splines intact, from D30s to big bearing 9" Fords and 35spl D60 stuff. This is a BEEFY 32 spline shaft on 33s, this shouldn't have happened.
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Be that as it may, it won’t stop the side gear from breaking. Also, the Titan axle is exactly the same, aside from being wider and having larger wheel bearings. The diff and axles are identical. So it’s not a worthwhile upgrade. The best place to put your money is in a 9”.
 
needatruck said:
Be that as it may, it won’t stop the side gear from breaking. Also, the Titan axle is exactly the same, aside from being wider and having larger wheel bearings. The diff and axles are identical. So it’s not a worthwhile upgrade. The best place to put your money is in a 9”.
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But it never made it TO the side gear meat. It was all in the thinned down part that acts as bearing surface. I measured today. The end of the splines on the shaft were 0.725" from the inside edge of the side gear. COMPLETELY outside the heavy cast part of the piece.

The side gear that does the work isn't the part that broke. It was the part designed to be a bearing surface between the side gear, the locking ring, and the differential housing.
 
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