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2022 GMC Jimmy?
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Looks an awful lot like an Acadia with knobby tires. I don't have a lot of faith for GM to actually come back out with another body on frame SUV, even with the sucess of the Colorado and Canyon.
They could bring the Trailblazer back from the Arab market, which shared nothing with the previous GMT360 Trailblazers, but it is a body on frame SUV. Doubtful still.
They could bring the Trailblazer back from the Arab market, which shared nothing with the previous GMT360 Trailblazers, but it is a body on frame SUV. Doubtful still.
beags86
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Agree. Body on frame is as likely as a new solid axle truck coming out. Not going to happen.
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Pretty much the new blazer with a bit more tire?
Billyworld
I now know that i will never finish this truck.
It's a car
it has 4 doors
Whenever I see concept car photos I try to imagine how they'll look without the cool tires and wheels - because those never make it to production.
However, isn't it time someone did bring them to production? Style the bodylines of a midsize SUV around 35" tires. That look would sell. Give it the 9.5" disc/drum e-locker rear and 3/4-ton IFS front from the H2, so it doesn't break.
Ah, I'm dreaming. Won't get cool off-road features. Will get touch-screen Nav, heated/cooled seats and 4-tone leather seats and will cost $42k. [sigh]
However, isn't it time someone did bring them to production? Style the bodylines of a midsize SUV around 35" tires. That look would sell. Give it the 9.5" disc/drum e-locker rear and 3/4-ton IFS front from the H2, so it doesn't break.
Ah, I'm dreaming. Won't get cool off-road features. Will get touch-screen Nav, heated/cooled seats and 4-tone leather seats and will cost $42k. [sigh]
urbex
1/2 ton status
I have my fingers crossed that Ford gets it right with the Bronco, and does a solid front axle...but I'm not holding my breath on it either. If they do get it right, there's a very high probability I would buy one. I would love to go buy a NEW 4x4 that isn't a full size pick up, and I've never cared for the way that Jeep has set up the coil suspension on the Wrangler. Not saying I want a leaf spring set up in the front, but it would be awesome if I didn't have to re-engineer the whole suspension and half the drivetrain to make it work right on and off road either.
Also interested to see what Rover does with the next gen Defender, though I suspect the price tag of those will be FAR beyond what most of us would spend for a weekend trail beater, lol.
But GM? Yeah...all hope lost there.
The article says it's body on frame based on the Colorado??? I do agree GM will never do a SFA as they believe they are evil.
beags86
Eastbound and Down
Your assuming that the article is right?
What's reported now vs what actually hits production are two different things.
The bronco is going to be a variant of the global Ranger platform. So chances of it getting SFA is about as good as me springing horns out of my head.
The defender will probably not be based on any previous defender before it. Probably a rebadged LR4 or the like.
The manufacturers are doing great work recycling old names for easy recognition to a known brand that was once well regarded. These new products are just new junk that some of the people are going to buy based on the name alone. They might good vehicles on their own merits but the manufacturer felt the need to piggyback on the past models to gain credibility in the new market.
beags86
Eastbound and Down
urbex
1/2 ton status
Theres supposed to be 2 or 3 versions of the Bronco, based on different platforms, but Ford seems to have been fairly tight lipped about any of the real details. There's been speculation that the biggest version may be coming with solid axles front and rear, but no confirmation as of yet. There's also been spottings of Ford running a new Wrangler around their test track, presumably to get comparison data, and Ford has said that they're planning on taking on the Wrangler with the Bronco, unlike GM and the Blazer. That whole solid axle and removable top thing are the two big selling points of the Wrangler, so there's at least a bit of finger crossing that Ford comes through on it. I'd think having such a thing could provide some serious competeiton to the Wrangler, despite many decades of experience with the Wrangler in the market...
But as I said, hopeful, yet not holding my breath either, lol.
But as I said, hopeful, yet not holding my breath either, lol.
For the 2022 Jimmy I would be very surprised if it's anything more than a revised Acadia or some other cross-over style SUV that has more in common with an AWD minivan than the original K5's.
Same type of thing for the Bronco. I also can't imagine Ford coming out with multiple different platforms (meaning they have real differences in overall size, suspension layout, or something like that.......just not different body configurations or something). There is a ton of money involved with doing that, It does sound somewhat reasonable they would go after the Jeep Wrangler market, but I can tell you that most people buying new 4 door Wranglers don't even know what SFA means. Maybe the removable top is a selling point but from what I see everyday there are a LOT of new Wranglers running around that have never, and probably will never, have the top off.
Same type of thing for the Bronco. I also can't imagine Ford coming out with multiple different platforms (meaning they have real differences in overall size, suspension layout, or something like that.......just not different body configurations or something). There is a ton of money involved with doing that, It does sound somewhat reasonable they would go after the Jeep Wrangler market, but I can tell you that most people buying new 4 door Wranglers don't even know what SFA means. Maybe the removable top is a selling point but from what I see everyday there are a LOT of new Wranglers running around that have never, and probably will never, have the top off.
Just saw the Blazer commercial while I was eating. Now I'm nauseous. I told my wife I wanted to slap that guy for having hose words come out of his mouth....
It looks like a Chevy murano....
It looks like a Chevy murano....
It's called the Ford Raptor and you are correct, it sells.
It's called the Ford Raptor and you are correct, it sells.
I will say they are a "hot" seller, but Ford is not making a living on just selling the Raptor. Overall it is a very low percentage of their sales. Ford states they sold 900,000 F-series trucks in 2018 (F-150, 250, 350) and while they don't list specific models I found some articles estimating they are selling around 1,000 Raptors per month, which equates to 12,000 per year. Do the calculations and that is just over 1% of the total truck sales. Seems pretty reasonable when you look at inventory on dealer lots and the Ford trucks you see running around everyday. Bet I see a couple hundred regular Ford trucks for every one Raptor I see.
Sure, but it's a full-size, and not an SUV. A big selling point of Wrangler is the $28k price tag (same as base model F-150), while Raptor is $50k.
You could buy a Blazer with (optional!) 31's in 1990 and it seemed off-road ready in the day. Today stock pickups have 32-33" tires.
You could buy a Blazer with (optional!) 31's in 1990 and it seemed off-road ready in the day. Today stock pickups have 32-33" tires.
urbex
1/2 ton status
Ride heights haven't appreciably gone up though. In fact, many of them have gotten lower. The larger diameter tires are primarily a comfort thing - larger diameters roll over bumps smoother than smaller diameters. They also have a higher load capacity. Larger diameter wheels make handling crisper, and partially just a modern trend.
There has also been a trend towards larger and larger tires off road. I remember back in the 80s virtually no one ran a tire larger than a 38 off road, outside of the big mud guys. Even then, a 33 was a big tire, and 44 was a HUGE tire..now, it's damn near a small tire compared to what the mud trucks and rock bouncers are running. Bigfoot #1 was "only" on 48s...
