That would be an AAM 9.75" up front and an AAM 11.25" in the rear.big dan said:
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3/4 ton vs. 1 ton
- Thread starter makovai
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In the 4wd world, people like to say the difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton is the front axle, trivilizing the actuall rating. With that, once people put a D60 in front, they now have a 1ton. No...you don't. That drives me nuts.
A 1 ton on the older trucks has a different frame and heavier springs. THATS what makes it a 1 ton, not the front axle. With that, they happen to USE a D60 to handle the WEIGHT rating, not for 4wheeling purposes as so many think it's made for.
On today's truck it's an overload spring, plain and simple.
So....if you have say a 1/2T K5 with a D60 and 14bt....it's a 1/2ton K5 with a D60/14...not a 1 ton K5. EVEN if you swap in part of a K30 frame and use K30 springs, it will likely never be a 1 ton since it's wheelbase physically limits it to ever towing/hauling enough weight that would be considered heavy enough to fall into a 1 ton weight class.
A 1 ton on the older trucks has a different frame and heavier springs. THATS what makes it a 1 ton, not the front axle. With that, they happen to USE a D60 to handle the WEIGHT rating, not for 4wheeling purposes as so many think it's made for.
On today's truck it's an overload spring, plain and simple.
So....if you have say a 1/2T K5 with a D60 and 14bt....it's a 1/2ton K5 with a D60/14...not a 1 ton K5.
EVEN if you swap in part of a K30 frame and use K30 springs, it will likely never be a 1 ton since it's wheelbase physically limits it to ever towing/hauling enough weight that would be considered heavy enough to fall into a 1 ton weight class.bowtiepower00
1/2 ton status
On the newer rigs, the only real difference between a 2500HD and 3500 SRW would be the torsion bar rates and leaf spring rates and number of leaves.
makovai said:
i say transmission is a big one. I cringe more than usual when someone says they have a 1 ton blazer with a 700r4 in it
MudFlap
1/2 ton status
so you're saying that the brakes are sames too?bowtiepower00 said:
bowtiepower00
1/2 ton status
On newer SRW trucks (assuming we are comparing models with the FF rear), the brakes should be the same, the only real differences relate to weight ratings for towing and hauling, and then really only in the payload department. Now, if you're comparing a Dually to a SRW truck, there will be some more differences, like rear brakes. The older the generation of trucks, the more differences you will find.
makovai
1/2 ton status
Lets go another direction.
I have a 72 blazer that now has a 8 lug D44 and a 14FF all from a 78 3/4 suburban (i beleive) What else would it take to make this rig a full 1 ton?
In your opinion.
So far i'm getting frame improvements or replacement
Tranny (prolly like a T400)
Also, wasn't there a bigger m/c and booster?
???
I have a 72 blazer that now has a 8 lug D44 and a 14FF all from a 78 3/4 suburban (i beleive) What else would it take to make this rig a full 1 ton?
In your opinion.
So far i'm getting frame improvements or replacement
Tranny (prolly like a T400)
Also, wasn't there a bigger m/c and booster?
???
The 8 lug D44 would be considered 3/4 ton all the way. If you put a beefier tranny, and 1 ton (D60) front in it, less ppl would cringe when you referred to it as 1 ton. When ppl say 1 ton, everyone here knows they are mainly referring to axles
Xtremjeepn
1/2 ton status
I guess the real core of the question here is "what does the tonage rating mean"?
I am sure it has changed over the years. Can a 1960's "1 ton" do the same job (towing, and hauling) as a 2007 "1 ton"?
It "seems" like I keep seeing newer "1/2 ton" trucks that have hauling and towing capacities that may exceed older "3/4 or 1 ton" trucks.
So what does it really mean?
I am sure it has changed over the years. Can a 1960's "1 ton" do the same job (towing, and hauling) as a 2007 "1 ton"?
It "seems" like I keep seeing newer "1/2 ton" trucks that have hauling and towing capacities that may exceed older "3/4 or 1 ton" trucks.
So what does it really mean?
makovai
1/2 ton status
Xtremjeepn said:
good point. i have just noticed its more cut and dry with 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton than it is with 3/4 ton to 1 ton
makovai said:
Impossible, the wheelbase of a K5 will never let it physically tow enough weight to get into a 1 ton weight rating.
