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4.10’s or 4.56’s with 700r4, 35” tires

all the people in here telling you REAL WORLD feedback on he same combo and you ignoring it = i am done and wont look in here anymore .

700r4 and 4L60-e hate big tires in gears are not DEEP . so live with the hunting and bogging in overdrive .
 
Super appreciate the feedback on that! Looking on Facebook and craigslist for an operating 14 bolt axle set that at least has 410s in it… Something in the right direction so I wouldn’t have to re-gear right away.

At this point, I am thinking about rearing my 10 bolt and just seeing what happens. I am pretty easy on her because I have so many paychecks into it. And, my rear housing was rebuilt last year or so, hopefully a re-gear will do it.

I sure admire those of you who can swap these yourselves. You know, aside from paint, a new motor and tranny someday, some digital gauges, maybe new interior… This will be the last big expense I put into it! ‍‍View attachment 485456
I fid my 89 back in the 00's.
The 3.42s had no grunt. Put a posi and 4:10's in it.

Never did one before, my boss had a monster truck. Between him and youtube it was a no brainer. Just be patient, don't settle for "close enough" and get the backlash right.

I took the old pinion bearings and sanded them with a sanding drum and made them into setup bearings. Easy peasy.

You got this. Going to do the 9.5" and 10 bolt front for my burb.
I will buy a pinion holding wrench though. I'm not strong enough to hold it with a breaker bar anymore!
 
Thank you Big Ray, and I’m listening. I would love to find a 14 b with a 410 or 453. But, I think I’m gonna pay a bundle for that axle out here, if it’s in good shape.
On flatland, my 308’s seem to work OK. And I’m easy on it. Anytime I go up the mountains or try to pull something relatively heavy, that’s when I really have a problem.
But again, I hear you. Don’t go through all the effort of installing the wrong gear set even if it’s on the right axle housing. For me, this just may be a multi step process in getting it right.
Certainly do appreciate all the good advice.
 
Well the 3.42 will be an improvement. 3.42 would be equivalent to 4.88 in 4th. So your 3rd gear will give you an understanding of how your engine powerband and tires will work with 4.88.
 
Well the 3.42 will be an improvement. 3.42 would be equivalent to 4.88 in 4th. So your 3rd gear will give you an understanding of how your engine powerband and tires will work with 4.88.
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3.42 in 4th would be equivalent to 2.46.

3.42 x .72=2.46 in o.d....??
 
Thank you Big Ray, and I’m listening. I would love to find a 14 b with a 410 or 453. But, I think I’m gonna pay a bundle for that axle out here, if it’s in good shape.
On flatland, my 308’s seem to work OK. And I’m easy on it. Anytime I go up the mountains or try to pull something relatively heavy, that’s when I really have a problem.
But again, I hear you. Don’t go through all the effort of installing the wrong gear set even if it’s on the right axle housing. For me, this just may be a multi step process in getting it right.
Certainly do appreciate all the good advice.
3/4 square body trucks came in the 14 bolt ff 4.1 flavor. You can pick one up for a couple of 2-3 hundred dollars. They're 8 lug though.
I've seen them in sets. With the 10b front.
 
Little late to the party on this. This Jimmy had 5.13 gears with 700r4, 1 tons, and 35's. It was actually decent RPM driving on the highway at 2600 RPM at 75mph. The OD makes a HUGE difference. Just do a RPM calculator and you'll see its better than 4.10 on highway with no OD.

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Just wanted to give you all an update on the gear sitch. After looking for a 12 or 14 bolt for a couple of months, I wasn’t able to find one that had low enough gears in it or one that did, that didn’t cost 3k.
So, against nearly everyone’s advice, I redid the 10 bolt with 4:56’s. Just couldn’t wait anymore.
It’s a weird driver, at the moment. Behaves totally different than the 3:08’s and will take a little bit to figure out… like how to drive it. I feel like a teenager in his first car. All gas or all brake haha. I will say it no longer hunts for overdrive on the freeway.

RPM’s went from about 1800 to 2300 at 60ish, which was close enough to what the gear calculators said, close enough I’d call them accurate.

Super appreciate everyone’s input. It gave me a lot to think about and I definitely weighed it all.
Now I can take my time and find another axle (14b) to put in next year or the year after that, God willing.

Cost me $1200 all in btw. Drove it in, drove it out.

Thanks, Chris
 
I’ve ran the numbers through the gear ratio calculator. On paper, the 456 gears seem like they’d work well, but the 411 gears would be a little less risky, in my inexperienced opinion. It’s about $2000 to switch both pumpkins out. So I’m hoping to only do this once.

I’d love some real world experience about what kind of RPMs people are pulling with this combination.

Trans type: 700r4
Tire size: 35”
Gear ratio:
Rpm’s at 65mph
Happy with them?

She’s a daily driver and I need to be able to cruise at 65-68mph down the highway, sometimes for 300 miles or so. But also pull a small trailer up long grades.

Currently have an old 350 and 3.08 gears. I can tell you going up over mountain passes is a painful experience. Depending on the grade, I’m in second gear doing 40 miles an hour!

I know 4.56 gears are pretty popular, but I hate to go too low. Anyway, any information you guys can provide I’d be super appreciative!

Whatever the consensus is is what I’m going with.

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I had to read the post all the way to give my opinion.
Your 350 engine is what makes me say 4.56
It will be strong enough for towing without compromise on long trips with high rpm.
My suburban with a 454 does fine with 4.10 and 35" tires, but if it had 4.56 I wouldn't mind.
My other suburban with 4.10 and a 350 does good enough with 33" tires but couldn't pull off 35" tires
 
Just wanted to give you all an update on the gear sitch. After looking for a 12 or 14 bolt for a couple of months, I wasn’t able to find one that had low enough gears in it or one that did, that didn’t cost 3k.
So, against nearly everyone’s advice, I redid the 10 bolt with 4:56’s. Just couldn’t wait anymore.
It’s a weird driver, at the moment. Behaves totally different than the 3:08’s and will take a little bit to figure out… like how to drive it. I feel like a teenager in his first car. All gas or all brake haha. I will say it no longer hunts for overdrive on the freeway.

RPM’s went from about 1800 to 2300 at 60ish, which was close enough to what the gear calculators said, close enough I’d call them accurate.

Super appreciate everyone’s input. It gave me a lot to think about and I definitely weighed it all.
Now I can take my time and find another axle (14b) to put in next year or the year after that, God willing.

Cost me $1200 all in btw. Drove it in, drove it out.

Thanks, Chris
By the way I just saw your post, I see you're in Galt.
I am up in Lincoln.
I do have plenty of parts including semi float axles, full float axles, as well as a set of 14bff and d60 4.56 with a rear Detroit locker if you get to a point where you want them, and I am not high on anything so I can give you a decent price
 
Little late to the party on this. This Jimmy had 5.13 gears with 700r4, 1 tons, and 35's. It was actually decent RPM driving on the highway at 2600 RPM at 75mph. The OD makes a HUGE difference. Just do a RPM calculator and you'll see its better than 4.10 on highway with no OD.

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What size lift?
 

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