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400 blocks. What's the difference from pontiac and chevy?

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I've noticed a lot of pontiac 400 blocks for sale locally, made me to start to think about witch block I will make my motor from. So it made me think, what is the difference in the pontiac 400 block and the chevy 400 block, specifically? Will only certain accessories work? What gives?
 
everything...the only thing from a pontiac that will work is the carb.
 
I've noticed a lot of pontiac 400 blocks for sale locally, made me to start to think about witch block I will make my motor from. So it made me think, what is the difference in the pontiac 400 block and the chevy 400 block, specifically? Will only certain accessories work? What gives?
Yeah apples and oranges.
 
what you trying to do?
BOP and Cadillac trans bellhousing mounting pattern is different also.
 
I've noticed a lot of pontiac 400 blocks for sale locally, made me to start to think about witch block I will make my motor from. So it made me think, what is the difference in the pontiac 400 block and the chevy 400 block, specifically? Will only certain accessories work? What gives?

The pontiac has a different bellhousing bolt pattern, reffered to as the BOP style or Buick Olds, Pontiac style. The motor mounts are the same but will require the frame location mounting to be moved forward about 3/4 inch. Coolant lines are in the same location and are the same size so just use the factory lines. Fuel pump location is also the same, so no new fuel lines needed. You will need either an electric fan, or a fan spacer to get the fan properly located within the shroud. (assuming it is a truck) Power steering pump will need a custom bracket to raise it about an inch or it will hit the frame.

For a 2wd truck, you can use a 2004r transmission, that has provisions for both the chevy bolt pettern and BOP bolt pattern, and is the same length as a th350, requiring no driveshaft cutting. For four wheel drive, your stuck with either getting an adapter plate, or finding the elusive removable bell housing from the early 70's fire birds with a 4 speed, and a removable bellhousing 4 spd top loader. (Those are the only two I have experienced that interchange, although there may be others that will also)

Lastly if you choose to build a pontiac 400, remember to add oil restricters to push more oil to the mains. Get a high volume regular pressure (not high pressure, as high pressure wears out the main bearings unequally) Replace the factory push rods with after market chrome molly ones. Use the HEI style distributor from any 80's model Oldsmobile/buick 301 or 307. Get screw in rocker studs, and be sure to use the correct length head bolts, as 4 of them intersect with exhaust manifold bolt holes.

In all, you'll spend double or triple of the money building and installing the Pontiac 400 for the same power and reliabilty of a small block chevy. Of course you could also go the 5.3 LSx route and get 300 hp, and 20mpg for about 1.5 times the cost of the traditional Small block Chevy.
 
Me and heath talked to a guy at silver lake that had a very healthy 430 buick big block and said that the cool part is that the heads use sbc valvtrain sfuff so the parts were alot cheaper to build heads. Would the pontiac be the same? Those valve covers look alot like sbc ones.
 
I have wanted to build a sbc 400 since I was a kid. But then virgin 400 blocks are going for 1500 bucks or more. I am attempting to stay with the sbc since all of my accessories are under warranty and will be till I die (since I'm not selling) I then thought about going with an 8.1 but the aftermarket isn't there like the 6.0 and others. I have bought 4 400 blocks so far but after inspecting them all of them have had at least one sleeve installed in them so I just resold them for minor profits. I really want to install a 'fun' motor, I'm tired of just enough to do the job.

I guess I could just go aftermarket and buy a new block that's all ready machined to specs and be done with it. I'm just not to that point yet, but I'm getting closer every day
 
I have wanted to build a sbc 400 since I was a kid. But then virgin 400 blocks are going for 1500 bucks or more. I am attempting to stay with the sbc since all of my accessories are under warranty and will be till I die (since I'm not selling) I then thought about going with an 8.1 but the aftermarket isn't there like the 6.0 and others. I have bought 4 400 blocks so far but after inspecting them all of them have had at least one sleeve installed in them so I just resold them for minor profits. I really want to install a 'fun' motor, I'm tired of just enough to do the job.

I guess I could just go aftermarket and buy a new block that's all ready machined to specs and be done with it. I'm just not to that point yet, but I'm getting closer every day
Well I have a 400SBC and it's not $1500, not even with the shipping to IN.
 
I have a 400 bored .040 over to a 408 in my blazer. They are way more fun than a 350:thumb: dont beleive all the haters that say they run too hot. Mine runs at 180* all day long driving and idling and never above 210* playing. Just get a real nice radiator to keep them cool.
 
What's wrong with running a sleeve? I had a 468 that had a sleeve in it. I asked the builder about it, he told me that he built motors that had 8.
 
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