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427, tall deck for a builder?

jk3078

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So I finally ran the numbers off my 427's, both are tall decks. www.MorTec.com lists a tall deck and a short deck 427. Is the tall deck as good a builder as a short and what is the difference exactly? Also the head numbers came back as oval port with open chambers, are these alright or should I be on the lookout for some other heads. I'm not looking to build a crazy race motor out of this (yet!) just something to make good power and rev. a little. I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row so buy this time next year I can drop one in my K5. Thanks for any help to a motor building newby.
 
What are the last 3 numbers on the head casting numbers?

I've heard stories of some people using the tall deck blocks to build stroker big blocks out of (more room for a longer stroke), but I don't have all the info memorized on how to go about that.
 
772's I think are the same casting heads I have on the 454 in my Crew Cab right now. Can't say I know many specifics on them or how they compare to other open chamber oval port heads. They appear to be a truck application only. I'd "guess" to say they don't quite flow as well as some of the pass car heads like 781s.
 
If I remember correctly- and if my information source was accurate- someone told me before that the talldeck blocks and regular blocks used the same heads. Just the block and intake used was different. If what I was told is true, you should be able to use any BBC head including closed chamber 396 heads, 402 heads, and 454 heads.

I'm not stating this as fact, but this is what I am under the impression of. (I had thought heads would be different as well until someone told me this)
 
A bunch of Chevy "truck only" motors had smaller intake valves than the passenger car motors. I would bet that the tall deck 427 falls into this category. Find a set of heads off a 1 ton or smaller 454, to get bigger intake valves.
 
JK3078 - Production tall deck blocks are fine to use but might cause some minor problems if you are not informed when making part selections.
Tall deck blocks are 10.2" at the deck ( measurement from crank center line to the deck of the block ) and regular blocks are 9.8" tall. The "V" only gets wider as the deck increases so that is the reason for the different intake on a T/D block. The aftermarket can offer intakes that will allow you to use a standard height dist. and you should not have much problems with exhaust manifolds and frame rail clearances or headers if chosen.
If you are not going to increase the rod length, and use a 3.76" stroke, you will need to use a four ring piston or get a set of custom height pistons made. GM made the T/D block to have room for the extra piston ring in H.D. applications and the race world uses the taller deck block to allow room for longer rods - longer strokes and such.

The cylinder heads will bolt up but be VERY careful in your choice of which head to use. There are several varients of the "oval port" head and not all are created equal. Most heads used on T/D motors were designed to have a power curve similar to a diesel engine - meaning that they pull like nobody's business at idle all the way to 3,800 RPM and than flatten out big time. The ports are made for velocity at the bery bottom end of the scale where a work truck engine spends all of it time.
Try and stick with heads similar to the 781's / 049's - they make fantastic power all across the power band and are easy to find.
I hope this helps shed a little light on you motor question . Good Luck ! Tom
 
tarussell said:
JK3078 - Production tall deck blocks are fine to use but might cause some minor problems if you are not informed when making part selections.
Tall deck blocks are 10.2" at the deck ( measurement from crank center line to the deck of the block ) and regular blocks are 9.8" tall. The "V" only gets wider as the deck increases so that is the reason for the different intake on a T/D block. The aftermarket can offer intakes that will allow you to use a standard height dist. and you should not have much problems with exhaust manifolds and frame rail clearances or headers if chosen.
If you are not going to increase the rod length, and use a 3.76" stroke, you will need to use a four ring piston or get a set of custom height pistons made. GM made the T/D block to have room for the extra piston ring in H.D. applications and the race world uses the taller deck block to allow room for longer rods - longer strokes and such.

The cylinder heads will bolt up but be VERY careful in your choice of which head to use. There are several varients of the "oval port" head and not all are created equal. Most heads used on T/D motors were designed to have a power curve similar to a diesel engine - meaning that they pull like nobody's business at idle all the way to 3,800 RPM and than flatten out big time. The ports are made for velocity at the bery bottom end of the scale where a work truck engine spends all of it time.
Try and stick with heads similar to the 781's / 049's - they make fantastic power all across the power band and are easy to find.
I hope this helps shed a little light on you motor question . Good Luck ! Tom

yep what he said is correct. and the distributer is taller also.
 
Summit sells intake manifold adapters to allow the use of any of the standard deck aftermarket manifolds out there. I think that Milodon makes them. Most of the dedicated tall deck manifolds out there are for the hard core racer that are using the block as a foundation for a big inch engines.
 
I heard you could run the 366 tall deck engine heads and bump the compression nicely and get a very stout motor !? just heard it have know idea if thats true
 
Good info guys, I'm starting to get an idea of what I want/need to do to get one of these in my truck. Someone I talked to today brought up the idea of shaving the deck down to make it a short deck, would this work or do the internals of the block not alow it? Great posts, keep 'em comin'.
 
Bad idea on the shaving down that much on a production type block - warpage and bad things will happen if you try that.

Tom
 
Hey, easy man, I'm not going to do it just getting info! I'm actually thinking maybe somekind of stroker kit might be neat....
 
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