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5.3 swap questions, tips needed etc.

rob h

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I have an 83k10 4x4 that has a 358 with a 4spd, one tons 37s etc. Now, I picked up a complete buick ranier 5.3 4l65 awd. Its loaded and runs like a top. The frames shot in the rear so it won't pass inspection. Perfect donor..lol

Can i use the engine harness as is is or does it need to be reworked..? With it being drive by wire any one ever use the pedal assembly from one of these ..?

Since its going infront of a 4spd, is there any special fly wheel/ clutch/bearing that works....? ( instead of novak)

Motor mounts, who sells the best ones that put the motor where it needs to be so I don't need to mess with the trans location and driveline.
 
You will need to rework your harness or buy an aftermarket one. You will need the PCM flashed to remove the security, might as well tune it while its there. or buy HP tuners and flash it yourself.

For motor mounts. Buy Advanced adapters 4 bolt to 3 bolt conversion plate and use your regular motor mounts. This plate will allow you to bolt the engine to your trans in the current location and bolt up to stock motor mounts in their location. From there you can go aftermarket for the mounts like ORD comp mounts.

Flywheel will depend on the year of engine but basically you want a 6.0 flywheel for a gm 2500 truck, again the year matters because crank stick out changed. Use a clutch for your truck with the holes drilled out to fit the metric fly wheel. Use a LS2 pilot bearing in the back of the crank.

All of this info and all of the part numbers I used are in my 1980 k25 build thread

You will need to buy or use metric bolts on this engine. So bell housing bolts, clutch bolts, motor mount bolts. Not really a problem for you since you have a donor vehicle. just be sure to set those bolts aside to use on the install.
 
I have hp tuners, used it alot on my 408 stroker in my 2500hd. Never did a whole lot tho, it was with a tuner. So I have that, so its a plus.

Its a 2004 5.3

I'd of never thought of keeping all the bolts, great idea..
 
I have hp tuners, used it alot on my 408 stroker in my 2500hd. Never did a whole lot tho, it was with a tuner. So I have that, so its a plus.

Its a 2004 5.3

I'd of never thought of keeping all the bolts, great idea..

2004 makes it easier. You have the later crank. So use a 6.0l flywheel. I used "BRUTE POWER/PERFECTION CLUTCH 502776 " You don't have to use this exact part, but the application will work. You will need to buy flywheel bolts, just get ARP and be done. Your flex plate bolts wont be long enough. Be sure to use Locktite on the bolts, those holes go though to oil and will leak without threads sealed. That flywheel will need metric pressure plate bolts, buy those too. You will need to knock out the alignment pins from the flywheel. then drill out your standard sized pressure plate holes a little larger to fit the metric bolts. Clutch will just be whatever 12" clutch you want that fits your truck application. standard 10 spline gm clutch.

Pilot bearing will be a "GM 12557583" This is the only pilot bearing application that will work. All other manual LS engines used the deep crank hole, your input shaft wont reach that far, this pilot bearing uses the first, larger hole that your input shaft will reach

When you do your DBW setup, be sure to use the pedal and TAC module. those two parts are a matched set part number wise. so just use what you have. I recommend keeping DBW and not going back to DBC. DBW lets you setup cruise control with just 4 wires.

AS for HP tuners, lots of youtube videos out there showing how to remove VATS and the basics. you can remove torque management, and speed up the throttle response a bit too fairly easily. It will cost you $100 worth of credits to unlock that Vin on your tuner though.


Other stuff you havent mentioned. Your power steering hose you have now will just work fine with the new engine. If you get a driver side battery tray, you can use the factory LS battery cables for your battery, if not you will have to make your own, they are incorporated into the engine harness. It doesn't take much to cool a 5.3, the radiator you have now will probably be fine, or buy an aluminum one, whatever you do. DO NOT BUY A GRIFFIN. If you do use a non LS radiator. The upper radiator hose off of a GMT800 truck will help with getting the outlet to the driver side.
When you tune your engine, you can go speed density and ditch the mass airflow meter if you want, but you will need to put a IAT in the intake if you do. there is a spot to drill and tap the intake manifold for it. Is your truck vacuum brakes or hydro boost? if vacuum, was the donor vehicle Vacuum? if not you will need to buy the GM vacuum nipple that plugs into the back of the intake. Do not block off the heater hoses on an LS. If your not running your heater, just loop them back on themselves. they need to flow.

  • ARP 134-2201 flywheel bolts
  • ARP 330-2802 pressure plate bolts

As for the fuel system, you can buy Walbro 255 pump #GCA758-2 which will drop into your fuel tank like factory. then you can run a corvette filter/reg unit and plumb it up front. There are complete kits to do this or buy your own fittings. Here is a list of what I used I converted everyting to -6 and plumbed it with pushlock hose..
  • 16mm x1.5 to -6 9894DBJERL (Tank pressure)
  • 14x1.5 to -6 Russell 640820 (Tank Return)
  • x2 3/8 Push lock to -6 Russell 640853 (filter pressure in/rail pressure in)
  • 5/16 to -6 Russell 640863 (Filter return)
  • 3/8 male to -6 Russell 640940 (filter out)
 
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I'm running a 2004 5.3, I picked up a 4l60e out of a 2002 Tahoe, bolted right up. I had someone build a harness and tune the computer at the same time.

Most of the information you'll need is already except I see no mention of VSS which you absolutely have to have. My 1990 np241c Tha was in my truck already bolted to the back of the tranny and had VSS in it, you won't be so lucky in a 83. What t case are you planning on using?
 
Also, I used diy4x motor mounts, they drop the engine exactly where it needs to be they are awesome.
 
VSS is not needed for a manual trans LS swap. Cruise control wont work though. I ran mine without VSS for a while. The only downside is that when you come to a stop, the idle will sit at 1000 for a second before dropping down to whatever the set idle is since the engine does not know your stopped. This can be tuned out in software, but then you wont have it hold your idle up for you when youre shifting, not that you need that. This setting is called Throttle cracker.

But yes, there are tons of vss signal generators for transfer cases that work. I ended up using the VSS out of my Dakota digital dash for mine which used a mechanical signal generator off the transfer case.

Dakota digital also makes a GPS based vss generator
 
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Thanks guys..!! Even part #'s.

Planning on using my 4spd with the 205, ill need a vss generator.

Motor mounts, those advanced adapters are cheap but the review are bad. ..did u have problems with them...? ..if not ill try em. The diy4x look nice but more cash. I don't mind buying if there's less of a headache.

I'll need a new gas tank for sure, its been propane powered for years so the tanks been left with less than a gallon in it I think.

The vet regulator with the walbro 255 sounds like a plan. I have the bigger walbro on the shelf for a spare for the 408 but does that walbro part # above come with everything needed..??
 
Thanks guys..!! Even part #'s.

Planning on using my 4spd with the 205, ill need a vss generator.

Motor mounts, those advanced adapters are cheap but the review are bad. ..did u have problems with them...? ..if not ill try em. The diy4x look nice but more cash. I don't mind buying if there's less of a headache.

I'll need a new gas tank for sure, its been propane powered for years so the tanks been left with less than a gallon in it I think.

The vet regulator with the walbro 255 sounds like a plan. I have the bigger walbro on the shelf for a spare for the 408 but does that walbro part # above come with everything needed..??

You could do the VSS conversion from Offroad design. I did it on my last 205. Worth the money in my opinion.

Those adapter plates are fine, lots of people hate on them becasue you cant use the factory LS AC pump. I didnt think that would be an issue for you. Its just a flat plate with 7 holes in it.

That PN walbro will drop right into a GM TBI fuel sending unit. so get a new TBI tank and sending unit and that pump will work great fro you. it comes with the rubber, wire adapter, clamps and everything.


@TreeFarm needs an award on this one. He served it up on a silver platter.

Eh right place at the right time. I saved all my PNs I used on my builds.
 
As for the fuel system, you can buy Walbro 255 pump #GCA758-2 which will drop into your fuel tank like factory. then you can run a corvette filter/reg unit and plumb it up front

If I'm not mistaken you only need the corvette filter/reg if your 5.3 motor does not have a return line, I have a 2004 and it had a return.
 
If I'm not mistaken you only need the corvette filter/reg if your 5.3 motor does not have a return line, I have a 2004 and it had a return.

You may be correct. Ive only ever done returnless setups. My 06 had returnless, and have put car intakes on the other ones for hood clearance.
 
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