i thought that stock springs were like 48 or 49 inches??i see what you are saying and it makes sence but how did that guy with the 57s have his that far foward like he was saying??
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52s vs 56s in the front and why??
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blazin_blazer
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hmmmm....
oooh i see...when i open that thread there are only 3 pages to it???.....when i'm not signed in it shows alot of pages like that, but when i'm signed in... page 1 is post 1-100, page 2 is post 101-200,pg 3 is posts 201-286(as of right now)....some where in preferences you can set how many posts per page, mine is set to 100 per page...alot easier to read than a gazillion pages....just like this thread hasn't even started a pg 2 yet...
this is just to much complexity tho...i guess i will just run stock length 2nd gen lift springs and a zero rate to move axle back 1.5''s, both for safety and simplicity(k.i.s.s.)that should give me 105'', a 1/2'' over the 1st gen wb ....but now that brings up the question of the crossover steering (hi steer shouldn't be a problem, since it goes from arm to arm), but w/ steering box in factory location and axle set back, will the crossover be an issue or will it be ok? can i run a longer pass. side steering arm(is there even such a creature?) or is a curved crossover rod the answer or what would it need??
oooh i see...when i open that thread there are only 3 pages to it???.....when i'm not signed in it shows alot of pages like that, but when i'm signed in... page 1 is post 1-100, page 2 is post 101-200,pg 3 is posts 201-286(as of right now)....some where in preferences you can set how many posts per page, mine is set to 100 per page...alot easier to read than a gazillion pages....just like this thread hasn't even started a pg 2 yet...
this is just to much complexity tho...i guess i will just run stock length 2nd gen lift springs and a zero rate to move axle back 1.5''s, both for safety and simplicity(k.i.s.s.)that should give me 105'', a 1/2'' over the 1st gen wb ....but now that brings up the question of the crossover steering (hi steer shouldn't be a problem, since it goes from arm to arm), but w/ steering box in factory location and axle set back, will the crossover be an issue or will it be ok? can i run a longer pass. side steering arm(is there even such a creature?) or is a curved crossover rod the answer or what would it need??
blazin_blazer
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I don't think you will know where to place the front axle until you have swapped the 1st gen body onto the 2nd gen frame. Just leave the front axle where it is now, then swap bodys. Then take measurements to see if you need to move the front axle at all. You can then decide on 52" springs or stock springs with zero-rate or whatever you need to do.
There is a member here, I beleive his screenname is jays68yak. He put a 1st gen body onto a 2nd gen frame. Might wanna talk to him about your axle location questions
blazin_blazer
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this is true, i was thinkin if i made the wb close to the first gen, that i could just locate the wheelwells over the tires...and bolt the 1st gen body brackets where they may....why should i swap body 1st? pros/cons?
no clue. I think a lot of people hook it up and never take any real measurements. they just add up numbers in their head and throw out a total.
Then you move the axles once and only once.
yes if you redrilled your stock springs 4" forward it would move the axle that far. thats not what you are doing.
same concept, except move the front hanger forward 4", with stock springs this would move your axle forward 4". this is with a center pin that is 23" from the end.
now that the hanger is moved forward 4" you are going to hook one end of the spring to it and the center pin will be back 25" from that point. that will move your axle back 2" from where a stock spring would be. now if you use a zero rate you can move it from there, but in order for you to move your axle forward 6" with 57's you would need to extend your frame and use zero rates.
if you mounted 57's from the stock hanger it would move your axle back because the distance from the spring end to the center pin is more then stock springs. last what people forget.
this is a terrible diagram but it might help.
not that im doubting chas (gmc4cw) about this i just want to make sure this is correct before i go on ordering steering parts because if this is true im not gonna go full hydro im just gonna go crossover/hydro assist...
doonjumper
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I did not read the whole thread but if you use the a bomb or diy b52 kit 52' springs will work with no need to move the rear shackle.
If you move the stock front bracket then the axle moves farther forward and you have to move the rear shackle or run 56' springs.
If you move the stock front bracket then the axle moves farther forward and you have to move the rear shackle or run 56' springs.
The DIY4X a bomb or b52 brackets (unless custom ordered) will also move the axle forward depending on which holes you use to mount everything, so if using 52" springs you will need to move the rear shackle hanger
The rearmost position of the a-bomb or B52 does not require you relocate the shackle hanger.
Not so.. And the a bomb moves it forward less being that it only has one set of frame holes.
52" a bomb or b52 second hole from front and bingo you are golden and the axle only moves 3/4 or less of an inch.
