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7.3 powerstroke diesel problems - need advice

JoshHefnerX

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I know there's a couple of you around here with some experience in this engine.

Did an oil change on it yesterday and had glitter. Looks like most of that is non-magnetic.
I dont have a lot of history on this engine. Bought it a year ago, had the oil changed at a shop that is well reviewed, and he said the oil looked ok.

I've put about 1100 miles on it since then and recently did a bunch of work to it because the ICP pressures were low.

Pulled the injectors to o-ring them
replaced the ipr
glow plugs
rebuilt turbo

The passenger side valve cover I did manage to knock a little dirt into from the valve cover as I was removing it. went through and cleaned up all the grit I could find w/ qtips - it was very minimal. But nowhere in anything I took apart were there any metal flakes.

There are only a couple of places on this engine that have non magnetic metal in them
Rod/crank bearings
HPOP (aluminum and brass)
turbo (brass)

The drain plug magnet appears to have gotten off the oil plug and was beat up, I managed to retrieve it, but there was magnet 'grit' that got picked up by the magnet when I was sorting through this mess.

My thoughts are. The HPOP pressure was a little low, which started me working on things - and these pumps have been known to eat themselves from the inside - so 1 possiblity.
the magnet bits got picked up and worked through the low pressure pump chewing up that pump, or the turbo bearing may have pooped itself or the hpop is eating itself.

If the crank bearings have gone I don't know that it's something I can deal with myself at this moment. And generally if the engine is running, there has to be some oil pressure in order to feed the injectors.

So, I was trying to decide if there's a better way to go about this. I've gotten a new low pressure pump. Was trying to figure out how to flush what I can of the engine, and depending on what I see from the low pressure pump, ordering a new hpop. and running some cheap oil through it to try to flush the rest of the engine out.

I ordered an oil filter cutter to have a look in there.

Any other thoughts on this?

I'm posting a couple of pics up The pan was probably not lab clean, but didn't have all of that flake in it. I probably knocked a little grit into it wiping the underside of the oil pan. so there could be a little sand/dirt in the pics, but it isnt from inside the engine. the round black piece is whats left of the oil plug magnet and the black flakes on the magnet as best I can tell are some of the magnet leftovers.

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Pulled the lpop and not a single flake in there. Clean as could be... Which I think is strange. And no real wear that's out of the ordinary for 170k miles. Some wear, but the camera is highlighting more than it really is. Most of the scoring could barely be felt w/ a fingernail. More like surface finsh.





Also drained the hpop reservoir and stuck my endoscope in no flakes either- which it should be clean as it's after the pump.

Gonna try to pull the oil filter tomorrow and cut it open to see what it looks like.

Got a new hpop in - hopefully that's the problem.

Turbo has no noticeable wear so I don't think that was the source of metal.

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Pulled oil filter and cut it open, and nada. 1 tiny sliver of something magnetic. None of the non-magnetic stuff I saw in the pan... So kinda feel like either something shit the bed as I pulled into the driveway.. Or my drain pan was dirtier than I thought.

Swapped the hpop, got it started real quick. Started no problems. Gonna run it for a few miles and drain the cheap oil to see what comes out.
 
If the pan picture is all of the garbage you had, with no metal in the filter, I’d run it another oil interval and look again

In terms of the turbo, they typically will develop a chirp or whistle when they start to get loose. Sometimes you get Frosted Flakes in the intake, but you’ll know if it’s that bad
 
I rebuilt the turbo w/ a new bronze bearing turbine/comperssor combo as part of the list of things I did. Still had no wobble/play and spun by hand ok so it shouldn't be trashed. Was driving fine up until then. Was maxing out my boost gauge at over 25psi no problems.

Starting to feel like I probably dumbassed myself for rushing and being tired and not cleaning the pan. I wiped it real quick but didn't 'clean' it...

But I've got new oil in it now. I'll put a few miles on it and change it again. if it's clean then it's a learning lesson. It probably needed the hpop anyhow and the lpop was cheap enough that wasn.t bad to just do that...
 
Sounds like you got it with your HPOP, plus if it had issues anyways. I'd bet since there wasn't anything in the filter it was false metal in the drain pan. I never even look at my oil or filter unless there's a legit complaint to go after. Mains or rods rarely ever go out on these engines since they don't run if they don't have oil pressure to feed injectors.
Not sure of you did but always prime your low pressure pump with Lubriplate. Or some other assembly type lube.
 
The HPOP when I got the truck hot would be up 2600ish at about 60-70% throttle and drop after that. Would drop to about 1800-1900psi under full hit.

I replaced the injector o-rings and the ipr and was getting about 2600 at full bore hot after. There were 2 orings that were worn for sure. So it brought up the pressure, but still wasn't at the 3000 ish it should be. Haven't driven it yet w/ new hpop.

Did get it started, prefilled the hpop res, and oil filter. On the lpop I had some straight 30wt that has been doing good as some assy lube. Fairly sticky
 
Got oil report back from Blackstone. Looks good there.

Copper/lead/tin were all at 1/1/0 So shouldn't be any problems w/ the bearings. Added an oil pressure sensor to read the lpop pressures and am also holding decent main oil pressure so clearances should be good.

Gonna drain some of the cheap oil I put in to run it. If no glitter - then lesson learned.
 

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