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71K5 - BP71K5's Just for fun build

07/31/2019

Been spending time unpacking and getting rid of trash and some stuff the previous owners of the house left. The county has some “convenience centers” that take as much trash as I can fit in a pickup once each day for free. I’ve been 4 times so far. Tonight was the final batch of previous owner stuff, an old washer and dryer I was able to sell for $300.

So now the garage is close to only having in it what’s supposed to be there. I’ve never had a garage that we actually parked cars in and given the rain here, I’m going to try and keep this 2 car garage able to fit 2 cars (or 1 car and 1 K5).

K5 is going on the far side with all the tools. Since I lost all my old garage shelving, I’m paying close attention to storage options. My big base toolbox was damaged in the move and a couple drawers don’t close anymore. I blame the movers. :surepal:
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I have a little over 10ft of horizontal space on that back wall for wall cabinets. With a 9.5’ ceiling, I could fit some 48” cabinets all the way up at the ceiling and a 36” tall workbench or deeper cabinets below. Maybe replace my broken toolbox with a couple fixed cabinets as I never move the big toolbox
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That right side has a couple windows that I can fit a couple more cabinets up high if needed. I think that wall might be good for “portable” tools on wheels like the bender, hoist, etc. I can wheel them out if I need extra room to work on something.

I also have been looking at work tables and ran across these things. They make welding table kits like this one.... https://weldtables.com/collections/...ng-table-top-kit-certiflat-by-tab-slot-u-weld

Or they make higher-end ones too. I think if I can make some kind of wheeled stand for it that lets me fold the table top down, I can roll it over against that side wall when not in use which would leave space for parking the rest of the time.

I also sold my tablesaw back home as I hated that particular saw, but really enjoy having a tablesaw. There’s a bunch of “wood shop” projects around the house so I took the opportunity to get what I hope will be an upgrade to my old saw. I really love the worm drive circular saws and when I saw this wormdrive tablesaw, I decided to give it a try. It’s certainly nothing Norm Abram would use for cabinets, but I’m hoping once I make a stand for it that it’ll be fine.
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One of the things I hated about my old one was the stand was flimsy and the wheels didn’t lock well. Since this doesn’t have a stand, I get to build a stand correctly.

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The smaller motor with worm-drive gears is supposed to make it cut through lumber much easier without binding, and makes it a bit lighter. I can actually lift this up myself and place it on a future shelf on a wall.

The smaller motor also leaves some space for clever tool storage underneath. Also designed so it can safely sit up on end to take up less floor space.

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That’s it for now. Next up is finding a bit more chairs and other furniture that I’m not planning to build, then getting some garage storage installed to make room to be able to build some built-in bookshelves and a cal-king sized bed frame for me and Mrs. BP.
 
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07/31/2019

Been spending time unpacking and getting rid of trash and some stuff the previous owners of the house left. The county has some “convenience centers” that take as much trash as I can fit in a pickup once each day for free. I’ve been 4 times so far. Tonight was the final batch of previous owner stuff, an old washer and dryer I was able to sell for $300.

So now the garage is close to only having in it what’s supposed to be there. I’ve never had a garage that we actually parked cars in and given the rain here, I’m going to try and keep this 2 car garage able to fit 2 cars (or 1 car and 1 K5).

K5 is going on the far side with all the tools. Since I lost all my old garage shelving, I’m paying close attention to storage options. My big base toolbox was damaged in the move and a couple drawers don’t close anymore. I blame the movers. :surepal:
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I have a little over 10ft of horizontal space on that back wall for wall cabinets. With a 9.5’ ceiling, I could fit some 48” cabinets all the way up at the ceiling and a 36” tall workbench or deeper cabinets below. Maybe replace my broken toolbox with a couple fixed cabinets as I never move the big toolbox
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That right side has a couple windows that I can fit a couple more cabinets up high if needed. I think that wall might be good for “portable” tools on wheels like the bender, hoist, etc. I can wheel them out if I need extra room to work on something.

I also have been looking at work tables and ran across these things. They make welding table kits like this one.... https://weldtables.com/collections/...ng-table-top-kit-certiflat-by-tab-slot-u-weld

Or they make higher-end ones too. I think if I can make some kind of wheeled stand for it that lets me fold the table top down, I can roll it over against that side wall when not in use which would leave space for parking the rest of the time.

I also sold my tablesaw back home as I hated that particular saw, but really enjoy having a tablesaw. There’s a bunch of “wood shop” projects around the house so I took the opportunity to get what I hope will be an upgrade to my old saw. I really love the worm drive circular saws and when I saw this wormdrive tablesaw, I decided to give it a try. It’s certainly nothing Norm Abram would use for cabinets, but I’m hoping once I make a stand for it that it’ll be fine.
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One of the things I hated about my old one was the stand was flimsy and the wheels didn’t lock well. Since this doesn’t have a stand, I get to build a stand correctly.

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The smaller motor with worm-drive gears is supposed to make it cut through lumber much easier without binding, and makes it a bit lighter. I can actually lift this up myself and place it on a future shelf on a wall.

The smaller motor also leaves some space for clever tool storage underneath. Also designed so it can safely sit up on end to take up less floor space.

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That’s it for now. Next up is finding a bit more chairs and other furniture that I’m not planning to build, then getting some garage storage installed to make room to be able to build some built-in bookshelves and a cal-king sized bed frame for me and Mrs. BP.


You've got plenty of perimeter storage near the ceiling.... just come down maybe 20" - 24" and build shelves deep enough to hold your favorite style of bin. You can even build it above the garage door headers if you are desperate for as much shelving as possible. :waytogo:

Doesn't cost you any valuable floor space, doesn't interfere with opening car doors when you park... and let's you keep seldom-used items organized without giving them "prime real estate" in a new workshop.
I prefer clear bins, since you can see the contents without pulling them down to peek inside.... but whatever works for you.


P.S. Don't think I didn't notice that sweet carpet you've already installed in the garage!!! :haha:


-G
 
Yea, I’m wondering if my money is better spent on actual tool storage and less on cabinet space. Most of the previous cabinet were filled with tools in plastic cases. It’d be nice if I didn’t have to keep the tools in those cases, but I don’t want to get rid of the cases. Maybe get a couple more big drawer tool boxes and just put all the other stuff I don’t use but want to keep up high in plastic bins. I suppose some other actual tools like the cam bearing installer probably doesn’t need prime real-estate either.

I also hate the peg board tool hangers so I need another storage option to ensure each tool has a spot of its own which makes getting it put back in the same place much easier for me (and my kids).

Never thought of my carpet as such. It’s a plastic woven camping mat. Water and oil proof and nicer than concrete on your back. Let’s spilled automotive fluids right through the seams though so I might need some actual carpet for catching leaks to prevent floor stains.
 
A lot of the garage storage companies sell “slat wall” options now. It’s similar to peg board in concept but s little nicer looking and you can clip on brackets anywhere you want for specific kinds of items. Must be an option to consider...

Is that space above the garage ceiling a storage area, or 2nd story living space?

-G
 
Is that space above the garage ceiling a storage area, or 2nd story living space?

-G

It’s all living space above there. I do have some basement storage I Plan on using for stuff that used to be in the old garage but didn’t necessarily need to since that was our only storage space for it. Stuff like camping gear and Christmas decorations etc. I guess I also have an attic I can use for storing some stuff that’s safe to haul up there.
 
Made a decent amount of progress over the past few weeks.

Got an decently sturdy ceiling shelf installed with clear plastic bins so I can see what’s inside before I climb up the ladder and fumble with them. (Thanks for the idea Greg) Supposed to hold 600lbs.

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That cleared up almost all of my boxes and allowed me to rearrange some of the tools off the floor. Next up was the workbench.

Ordered a 3’x 4’ pro table from weldtables.com. It came within ~10 days. It came unassembled to save shipping space I thought, but it was assembled in the crate with some wood and screws holding it together. I guess welding it myself saves a bit of money.
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Also had to refill my welding gas. The local air gas didn’t carry the 60lb bottles so I got to upgrade to an 80lb.
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The table is supposed to be capable of being really flat using a series of tabs and slots on the ribs that engage with slots on the table top. The quality seems to be very good on the parts themselves. Welding it together flat wasn’t quite as easy as they made it seem, more on that later. Essentially I clamped it all together with a bunch of 3” pipe clamps on the interior and C-clamps on the edges. Then starting near the center, zapped the ribs to the table in about 1” sections.

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I didn’t actually put any welds in the top surface. When I check for flatness with a big straightedge there’s a couple high spots which seem to be right over some of the X areas where the tabs on the lower ribs poke through. Looks like some heat distortion and I wonder if I weld up those holes, that it might shrink back down? As an alternative, a flap disc seems like it would fix it.
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One neat thing about the tables with the holes every 2” is that I can place 5/8” bolts in the holes to act as stops that are at right angles which makes setting up some table legs a bit easier.

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Nothing fancy. Just 1.75” square tube. I capped the ends and tapped them for 1/2-13 flat head Allen bolts to hold the top down to the legs.
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I do like these casters I found. They hold 600lbs each for a total of 2400lbs. I hope that’s enough. :D They have a small red rotating ring that lowers a stabilizer foot so the table doesn’t move while your using it. I always hated my other tables because they’d move around so much even with the caster locked.

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It rolls around great, and I’ve seen some good DIY clamps that fit into the holes that should work for both woodworking and K5 stuff. Future plans include a bracket to attach the table saw, grinder, and a few other things to the table as well.
 
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Nice work Brian! Space is looking good.

Now pull those stickers off the clear bins like a good OCD builder should! ;)

-G
 
Made a decent amount of progress over the past few weeks.

Got an decently sturdy ceiling shelf installed with clear plastic bins so I can see what’s inside before I climb up the ladder and fumble with them. (Thanks for the idea Greg) Supposed to hold 600lbs.

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That cleared up almost all of my boxes and allowed me to rearrange some of the tools off the floor. Next up was the workbench.

Ordered a 3’x 4’ pro table from weldtables.com. It came within ~10 days. It came unassembled to save shipping space I thought, but it was assembled in the crate with some wood and screws holding it together. I guess welding it myself saves a bit of money.
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Also had to refill my welding gas. The local air gas didn’t carry the 60lb bottles so I got to upgrade to an 80lb.
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The table is supposed to be capable of being really flat using a series of tabs and slots on the ribs that engage with slots on the table top. The quality seems to be very good on the parts themselves. Welding it together flat wasn’t quite as easy as they made it seem, more on that later. Essentially I clamped it all together with a bunch of 3” pipe clamps on the interior and C-clamps on the edges. Then starting near the center, zapped the ribs to the table in about 1” sections.

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I didn’t actually put any welds in the top surface. When I check for flatness with a big straightedge there’s a couple high spots which seem to be right over some of the X areas where the tabs on the lower ribs poke through. Looks like some heat distortion and I wonder if I weld up those holes, that it might shrink back down? As an alternative, a flap disc seems like it would fix it.
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One neat thing about the tables with the holes every 2” is that I can place 5/8” bolts in the holes to act as stops that are at right angles which makes setting up some table legs a bit easier.

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Nothing fancy. Just 1.75” square tube. I call the ends and tapped them for 1/2-13 flat head Allen bolts to hold the top down to the legs.
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I do like these casters I found. They hold 600lbs each for a total of 2400lbs. I hope that’s enough. :D They have a small red rotating ring that lowers a stabilizer foot so the table doesn’t move while your using it. I always hated my other tables because they’d move around so much even with the caster locked.

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It rolls around great, and I’ve seen some good DIY clamps that fit into the holes that should work for both woodworking and K5 stuff. Future plans include a bracket to attach the table saw, grinder, and a few other things to the table as well.
I really wan to do a similar style table for my garage. Not sure I can fit it though.
 
I really wan to do a similar style table for my garage. Not sure I can fit it though.

I considered making this fold down, but decided it was heavy enough to make that not easy. It looks like I can still squeeze both cars in if needed anyway. Ultimately I’d like to keep the table saw, chop saw, belt sander on a wall shelf out of the way until needed, then drop them onto the table only when I need to use them. That way, the table stays a table and doesn’t become a tool stand. Will probably need a couple smaller sawhorse type roller supports for really long boards or plywood, but those could hang up on the wall too.
 
Looking at it I was thinking it may be worth adding a shelf under neath that could hold some tools. Feel like a chop saw would be at home under there.
 
Looking at it I was thinking it may be worth adding a shelf under neath that could hold some tools. Feel like a chop saw would be at home under there.

Maybe, there’s room for a small shelf or bars up near the top, but I designed this to be at close to normal table height so I can sit down and work on it. Although I didn’t consider what molten blobs of steel would do to my knees as they fall through the holes while welding. No more shorts or barefoot welding I guess.
 
You can't tell us about cool casters and then not provide a link. That's against forum rules! :deal:
 
Maybe, there’s room for a small shelf or bars up near the top, but I designed this to be at close to normal table height so I can sit down and work on it. Although I didn’t consider what molten blobs of steel would do to my knees as they fall through the holes while welding. No more shorts or barefoot welding I guess.

I'll be you could come up with a small splatter shield underneath to divert welding slag from falling on your legs. :thinking:

A commercial-grade power strip mounted under the lip on one side would be a nice addition too. I use mine all the time for grinders and cutoff wheels.... ended up being really valuable. Not draping the cords off to a wall outlet also saves accidentally pulling the cutoff wheels onto the floor and breaking them. (It's always when you've just loaded a fresh one onto the grinder too! ) :angry1:

-G
 
I'll be you could come up with a small splatter shield underneath to divert welding slag from falling on your legs. :thinking:

A commercial-grade power strip mounted under the lip on one side would be a nice addition too. I use mine all the time for grinders and cutoff wheels.... ended up being really valuable. Not draping the cords off to a wall outlet also saves accidentally pulling the cutoff wheels onto the floor and breaking them. (It's always when you've just loaded a fresh one onto the grinder too! ) :angry1:

-G

Power strip for sure would be useful. My old welding table had one and it was handy to keep things plugged in with just a single cord plugged into the wall.
 
rather than a power strip I used a couple 4 gang steel boxes with plugs and tied them to a 20' pig tail. I can roll the bench around the shop and still have plenty of cord energize the bench.
 

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