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'86 Jimmy 4in Lift, 40’s, tons, 8.1 Swap- 700r4 said PNNNNN

This is not a dedicated trail rig, but does trailer to the destination usually. I am currently in the planning phase of doing a 52/56" spring swap, and getting back to being more road worthy.
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beags86 said:
I never understood that "I'm tripping over my own d**k to find model XX hose, when you can just buy one of those...
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Totally agree. I guess I just don't get the whole "numbers matching/gotta look factory" thing when building cars. Even if I was building a Camaro, I care more about performance and cost instead of "looking factory". To each their own.

max 02 said:
Not to be a dick to anybody that goes that with that universal hose...probably do it myself in the same situation. But for a guy like Larry that wants as factory looking as possible that hose just will not do.
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Everyone can build stuff how they want, I have no problem with that, the only thing that irritates me a bit with Larry's attitude is he thinks little stupid stuff like that, if you don't use a "factory" looking radiator hose then it's "hack" :surepal:

Larry has given a bunch of great info about the 8.1 to help education people on them and their good points. But his builds entice people to think you have to do it the way he did exactly or else you're a hack, and that I don't agree with whatsoever. Again, to each their own
 
@Kay86K5

Just to be clear, I no way was I ever calling what you did or Greg’s use of the universal hose hack.

Your swap and your crew cab is supper nice just like Greg’s swap is well done too.
I was just replying to Brian’s question about pulling you hair out for the “right part”. :cool:
 
max 02 said:
@Kay86K5

Just to be clear, I no way was I ever calling what you did or Greg’s use of the universal hose hack.

Your swap and your crew cab is supper nice just like Greg’s swap is well done too.
I was just replying to Brian’s question about pulling you hair out for the “right part”. :cool:
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I don't think he took it that way Dean....
 
Kay86K5 said:
Totally agree. I guess I just don't get the whole "numbers matching/gotta look factory" thing when building cars. Even if I was building a Camaro, I care more about performance and cost instead of "looking factory". To each their own.



Everyone can build stuff how they want, I have no problem with that, the only thing that irritates me a bit with Larry's attitude is he thinks little stupid stuff like that, if you don't use a "factory" looking radiator hose then it's "hack" :surepal:

Larry has given a bunch of great info about the 8.1 to help education people on them and their good points. But his builds entice people to think you have to do it the way he did exactly or else you're a hack, and that I don't agree with whatsoever. Again, to each their own
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It's not that he considers anyone that doesn't do it to his standards "hack". But if you got flooded with questions on the subject like he has from multiple forums and Facebook groups you might get snippy when people want to debate him on how he did his. That bs alone is what prompted him to write the 8.1 resource thread in the first place.

So yeah he can come off a little rough but I don't know he's ever bitched anybody out for not doing anything his way unless they started crap with him.

There is a method to the madness anyway. If it looks factory, works like factory it stands to reason factory diagnostics will still work to address any problem. That eliminates a ton of bs if you can't remember what you did on the initial build and something goes wrong. But if something goes wrong it's no different that diagnosing a 2002 Silverado with an 8.1 at that point.

Some may not have the drive to get to that level of detail but it sure pays off in other ways 5-10 years post swap.

He doesn't hold any patent on the 8.1 swap and anybody is free to use the info to what ever extent they can but you can't slam him for doing things his way no more than he can get after anybody else doing it differently. I'm pretty sure is info helped you too like it did most that have done this swap.
 
GWeakland620 said:
This is what I based it's position off of. And it's high enough that if my top headlight is under water, I am going to be having more issues than a wet ecu.
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I said something much like that, right up until I found muddy water inside my headlights. :rolleyes:

Looking back, I do think waterproofing is worth the extra time and headache. There's a reason most every modern vehicle has baffles and/or water seals protecting critical electrical components.

Unless this is still going to be a trailer queen, then you might not care so much about reliability. :dunno:
 
You got water up that high on a Squarebody you will be flooded inside the truck. No doubt.
 
ZooMad75 said:
It's not that he considers anyone that doesn't do it to his standards "hack". But if you got flooded with questions on the subject like he has from multiple forums and Facebook groups you might get snippy when people want to debate him on how he did his. That bs alone is what prompted him to write the 8.1 resource thread in the first place.

So yeah he can come off a little rough but I don't know he's ever bitched anybody out for not doing anything his way unless they started crap with him.

There is a method to the madness anyway. If it looks factory, works like factory it stands to reason factory diagnostics will still work to address any problem. That eliminates a ton of bs if you can't remember what you did on the initial build and something goes wrong. But if something goes wrong it's no different that diagnosing a 2002 Silverado with an 8.1 at that point.

Some may not have the drive to get to that level of detail but it sure pays off in other ways 5-10 years post swap.

He doesn't hold any patent on the 8.1 swap and anybody is free to use the info to what ever extent they can but you can't slam him for doing things his way no more than he can get after anybody else doing it differently. I'm pretty sure is info helped you too like it did most that have done this swap.
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Take it easy dude, I didn't slam him for his builds. I enjoy his builds just like the next gear head, even if I don't go about my builds the same way. And yes, I used his 8.1 page to get "some" of the info for my build and I appreciate him taking the time to do it. It's just things I've seen posted over the years of where he alludes if you don't do it to the extent of his detail, he's made some comments alluding it not being the right way, which I disagree with. And he can disagree with me, in the end, who gives a shit. Build your truck the way you want. If you think going to that level of detail is going to help you later on, then go ahead, I could care less. But the whole idea of you need to use certain part numbers or do something a certain way or else the build is on a subpar level, that's crap. And yes, I have seen comments like that before.

Like I said, to each their own. This whole site is to share ideas of how to build stuff, and that will always produce conflicting ideas or solutions to problems based on each individuals personal bias. And the conflict is good. Helps everyone reading it to think about what they really want out of their own build and how much they really want to spend. If we all built the same truck, that would be pretty stupid. That's my personal opinion, whether you agree or disagree (see what I did there :D)
 
ZooMad75 said:
You got water up that high on a Squarebody you will be flooded inside the truck. No doubt.
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Yes, the water came over the top of the driver's seat. Flooded lots of things. Not a shining moment in my driving career. :doah:


But the important part is that I was able to drive home afterwards. Submerging electronics would have made that a lot less likely.

And it doesn't need to be submerged. With no protective baffles around it, one good puddle splash coming up from below could give it a bath. Like I said before, a lot of vehicles add waterproof enclosures around electrical modules to keep water one step further away from the critical bits.
 
campfire said:
Yes, the water came over the top of the driver's seat. Flooded lots of things. Not a shining moment in my driving career. :doah:


But the important part is that I was able to drive home afterwards. Submerging electronics would have made that a lot less likely.

And it doesn't need to be submerged. With no protective baffles around it, one good puddle splash coming up from below could give it a bath. Like I said before, a lot of vehicles add waterproof enclosures around electrical modules to keep water one step further away from the critical bits.
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Pic or it didn't happen.
 
campfire said:
The pics aren't great, but they're in my build thread.
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I'm at work dude. I don't have time to read 400 pages of 6.2 Bible thumping gospel..... Well I do, it's raining today.... But I refuse to subject myself to that much 6.2 nonsense.
 
Kay86K5 said:
Take it easy dude, I didn't slam him for his builds. I enjoy his builds just like the next gear head, even if I don't go about my builds the same way. And yes, I used his 8.1 page to get "some" of the info for my build and I appreciate him taking the time to do it. It's just things I've seen posted over the years of where he alludes if you don't do it to the extent of his detail, he's made some comments alluding it not being the right way, which I disagree with. And he can disagree with me, in the end, who gives a shit. Build your truck the way you want. If you think going to that level of detail is going to help you later on, then go ahead, I could care less. But the whole idea of you need to use certain part numbers or do something a certain way or else the build is on a subpar level, that's crap. And yes, I have seen comments like that before.

Like I said, to each their own. This whole site is to share ideas of how to build stuff, and that will always produce conflicting ideas or solutions to problems based on each individuals personal bias. And the conflict is good. Helps everyone reading it to think about what they really want out of their own build and how much they really want to spend. If we all built the same truck, that would be pretty stupid. That's my personal opinion, whether you agree or disagree (see what I did there :D)
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We are good dude. I might have read your post with a little more tone on it than you intended. I agree there is more than one way to get something done and how one does it may not jive with the next guy. I've seen Larry take more shit over his way of doing things on this forum and others to be a little defensive for him. He catches a lot of deserved praise for his builds but also catches that shit when somebody decides to debate him on why it did something his way. Don't get me wrong it's cool to ask questions to why something got done. But to ask the question and then debate him on it is just plain shitty. It's happened very recently on his Blazer build (not you) .

He very blunt and to the point and much like I took a certain tone to your message I'm sure his direct approach can come off with some similar tone or attitude. I know I've been on the receiving end a few times. I've known him going on 25 years now and it's something I don't expect anything less from him. So I don't take it as being snotty or anything else. It's just his way.

It's all good. Let's get back to the build discussion.
 
ZooMad75 said:
We are good dude. I might have read your post with a little more tone on it than you intended. I agree there is more than one way to get something done and how one does it may not jive with the next guy. I've seen Larry take more shit over his way of doing things on this forum and others to be a little defensive for him. He catches a lot of deserved praise for his builds but also catches that shit when somebody decides to debate him on why it did something his way. Don't get me wrong it's cool to ask questions to why something got done. But to ask the question and then debate him on it is just plain shitty. It's happened very recently on his Blazer build (not you) .

He very blunt and to the point and much like I took a certain tone to your message I'm sure his direct approach can come off with some similar tone or attitude. I know I've been on the receiving end a few times. I've known him going on 25 years now and it's something I don't expect anything less from him. So I don't take it as being snotty or anything else. It's just his way.

It's all good. Let's get back to the build discussion.
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Huh. That wasn't my intention Rob. It's over, so this will be my only comment about it.
Moving on.....
 
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ZooMad75 said:
We are good dude. I might have read your post with a little more tone on it than you intended. I agree there is more than one way to get something done and how one does it may not jive with the next guy. I've seen Larry take more shit over his way of doing things on this forum and others to be a little defensive for him. He catches a lot of deserved praise for his builds but also catches that shit when somebody decides to debate him on why it did something his way. Don't get me wrong it's cool to ask questions to why something got done. But to ask the question and then debate him on it is just plain shitty. It's happened very recently on his Blazer build (not you) .

He very blunt and to the point and much like I took a certain tone to your message I'm sure his direct approach can come off with some similar tone or attitude. I know I've been on the receiving end a few times. I've known him going on 25 years now and it's something I don't expect anything less from him. So I don't take it as being snotty or anything else. It's just his way.

It's all good. Let's get back to the build discussion.
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It's all good, this is why trying to argue/discuss over a platform that is something other than talking face to face kinda sucks...it's hard to tell someone's tone or mood while reading text.

On with Greg's build. I want to hear the 8.1 fire up
 
Work is super slow, so I may be taking Friday off to see if I can get some thumps out of the exhaust this weekend.

Also, the dialog has been nice. Gives me something to read during this stupid slow time.

I will add, there are a lot of builds on here that have inspired me to slow down and do it right. But at the same time, time and money are also a factor. I'm trying to do my best work but also get this thing done. I have an event to go to on the 25th, so time is of the essence.

Motor and trans is going in, then it'll hit the trail. It will then come back into the garage for some suspension upgrades. 52's and 56's with the Fox Shox all the way around.
 
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