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'91 Suburban 6.2/V2500 'Blueberry'

I just mounted mine where the jack use to sit and i modified the attachement for the jack to hold the Webasto instead.

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It may be located a bit to high to be optimal for the Webasto (i think it should mount to lower point so you can assure it won't suck air) but it has worked fine for me and i tried to get som mounting instructions for it from the Webast dealer but i got no luck. If you find a installation instruction at the Norwegian dealer i would like to take part of the knowledge!

There's nothing fancy about the fan connection. From the Webasto comes a lead that gives + when the temperature in the system i high enough. I connected this lead to the fan connector at the front of the fan shroud.

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This way the fan will spin at the speed you set with the fan control in the car.
The Webasto is connected in series with the hose from the engine to the heater. I just cut the hose and connected the ingoing and outgoing hoses from the Webasto.
On the same picture you see my fancy CAV filter installation :waytogo: i dislike the orgiginal filter because it's expensive and too small for my liking, size matters!.
I need to start a build thread of my own so i can show my cargo wall build.
 
Oooh, thankies for details like that! I'll keep looking around for instructions, but like you I've had little luck finding anything useful... think they prefer to have it dealer-installed. And yeah, saw your filter already, I'll definitely have to get something like that :)

Build thread sounds good!
 
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I love this thread, being able to see how you guys do things and deal with your emission and equipment inspections is also great. Love the pics also.

Did you know that you guys type with an accent too? Thanks for the translations on metric to standard for us guys over here, it helps. Well put up pictures whenever you can, we will be watching.
 
Sorry for the late reply, been busy lately and as we apparently hit monsoon season I can't get myself to get anything done in near-freezing rain... when will it ever stop :dunno:

Just came back to leave brt666 a picture of my rear leaf springs as requested... from what I can tell there's nothing odd about any of them, they look identical to the ones on my spare truck (which never got downrated).
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/34838394/Pictures/2012-11-08 17.05.02.jpg
- makes me wonder exactly how mine did lose 1700lbs worth of GVWR. It's not a great pic, only had my phone easily accessible.. angle is looking in at the (way dirty) springs just in front of the drivers side rear wheel.

Hopefully I get some stuff done this weekend, primarily looking forward to getting my rear seats installed. The brackets holding the rear seat frame are stuck so bad I can't move them alone, and I've been having trouble finding someone capable of helping me with it... looks like it will work out now. I have to get me some power tools at some point! :rolleyes:

Then a little work on the driving lights, maybe installing new turning indicators.. say, any chance anyone could explain how the combined brake lights and rear turning indicators work? I'd rather add a couple of orange LED units to care for all the indicating, as Norwegians in general (and police in particular..) seem to have an issue with the American way of doing things in this case. Most interesting part would be whether there's a relay doing stuff up front or it the magic happens in the rear.. as stuff is pretty open back there now anyway it's not too much work adding a couple of wires if I have to.

Ooooh, and while I'm at it... before I go about completely disassembling the entire dashboard, could anyone point me in the direction of a general idea as to how to replace steering columns? I'd like to move everything out of the donor, that is, steering wheel (normal size, not gokart..), shift lever (doesn't flop around at random), multifunction thingy (that actually has multiple functions) and whatever parts of the shift indicator that are attached to it (as I'd like not having to guess if I left it in 3rd or overdrive after that downhill..). From what I've figured out so far looking through my service and repair manual, I can take the entire thing out if I disconnect it in front of the torpedo wall, just underneath the whole hydraulics assembly. But how much do I have to tear down inside? There's an air duct going beneath the column, and from the looks of things I have to remove the whole lower metal cover thingy.. the one with the ashtray and sosuch.. And to get to that I guess I have to remove the top cover? Aaaand by then it all starts to sound like more than a couple of hours (at my pace, anyhow).
 
It shouldn't be, as they used to be really strict about it.. Oh well, easier to get it 'uprated' should the need arise then.

Did get something done today at last! Rear seats are installed sans floor mounting (have to get new bolts, ended up cutting the old ones). Running boards are off on one side and a quick angle-grinding-session short of being off on the other side.. I've never seen anyone use THAT many different combinations of bolt and nut sizes to mount a single part before. :eek1:

Plan for the weekend: Shopping when I wake up, need bolts for various stuff. Center the rear seat frame, drill holes, mount. Find the correct hex(?) tool to replace safety belt buckles.. think the ones from the donor will fit, current ones are too short with the new seats. Mount the CB radio and the radio scanner. Finish hooking up the rear view camera system, mount the camera, put the rear section of roof cover back in place (yay, truck is back together again!). If there's still time left I'll look into mounting the bumper horns.. curious as to exactly how stuck the 10 or so bolts holding the front bumper in place are going to be. Oh, and pictures. This thread needs more pictures. At least if the rain holds up long enough for me to take the DSLR outside.

Love how the rear seats worked out by the way. They ended up quite high, and even with the headrests in front pulled up as far as they go I can still see over them and out the front window.. while still having more than enough head space. I've put them as far back as I could get them without modifying anything (kinda need them next week), sacrificing a little cargo space when the wall goes up, but the added leg room makes it worth it... also allows the passenger to slide the seat forward and tilting it back quite a bit even with the wall in place. Comfortable passengers are happy passengers, and happy passengers do not disturb the driver. :woot:
 
About the steering column. As i recall you just have to remove a small plastic cover and a small sheet metal hatch to get to the column and then you remove two Big bolts Holding it. Of course you have some cables as well as the wire for the thingy that tells what gear you use but over all its not a big deal.
 
Thanks brt666, I'll look into it again :)

...not much happening lately - mostly because of this little issue:



That's the result of 2 days worth of snowfall, diluted by a night of heavy rain.. the poor thing was completely invisible until the rain came. I just can't get myself to do anything useful outside, burr.

Did manage to get a few things done before winter arrived;
Rear seats are fully mounted. Really happy with them, they are so much more comfy than the old bench, and they sit just high enough to offer a surprisingly panoramic view.

Finally got around to mount the classic 5 orange marker lights on the sun cap, got them off of the donor truck. Too bad I can't find LED bulbs small enough to fit :/

Rear view camera/monitor all mounted up. Lens isn't quite wide enough for my liking, but for a $100 nobrand system I'm not complaining.. and it's definitely a lot better to see almost everything, than not to see anything at all! Will probably add another camera at some point so I can maintain the function of an internal rear view mirror once the cargo wall comes up.

CB/radioscanner/fire extinguisher all mounted to the center console. Looks like a cockpit :P Everything dims down just fine though, so it's not an issue for night time driving. Large screen to the right is my 10" ASUS Transformer TF700, mostly use it for music (Spotify) and as a backup navigation aid in case my TomTom Start 60 fails.



Also gotten hold of a few new parts:
Got the running boards (?) and front fenders off of this thing:
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When I went there to get the parts it was so cold that the diesel had turned to gel in their tractor so we couldn't get the truck inside their workshop... was a cold 2 hours getting everything loose that night.

A few days ago I also received a Toyota 80-series "Safari" snorkel.. a cheap (20% of original price) copy, but it should work fine until I can spend the $700+ the original would cost me :eek1: Also got a hawse fairlead in a trade.. and apparently one of two winches, though I haven't seen either of them up close yet. One is a Warn at least. That's good, right? :dunno:

One bit of good news though; seems like I might not have to wait until after Easter to continue on the truck! In an unexpected turn of events, it seems like I'll be able to rent a decently sized garage at a very agreeable monthly rate. It used to be a car mechanics workshop, so it's got a paint booth and a fairly stocked tool selection already.. I'll be sharing it with my dad and a common friend of ours, latter one only using the 2nd floor cold storage capacity for his LED business.

Had a few chances to put my truck to work lately, which is always nice. One time I had to do an express run into the capital to get someone a *lot* of IKEA furniture after a breakup - this is definitely the smoothest riding car I've had even at 65mph (hey, that's fast for Norway!). It's like a small locomotive chugging along happily. Interior noise has been somewhat reduced after I mounted sound deadening panels in the roof as part of the rear view camera installation.

Last weekend I had a completely different sort of fun, fetching my dads new toy. Road conditions didn't allow for any high speeds, but neither city driving nor back-country-road ups and downs ever seemed to strain the diesel.. not that it was ever quick to start with, but it didn't get worse with 2.5 tonnes on the hook either.



After 'upgrading' his company car to a new Golf with white leather seating ( :rolleyes: ) my dad realized that he needed something he could actually use, and bought a '70-something Series III Land Rover. Personally I can't believe I even considered one of these when I was looking for a project car, but I guess it will fit him. It's probably the better expedition vehicle, bit I'll rather be less adventurous and more comfy on road trips...



I love my two 27 watt LED work lights! Both for stuff like this, and just plain reversing at night.. daylight at the push of a button :waytogo:

Finally, the most 'off road' I've gotten lately (short of navigating a 'road closed' construction site some time ago as the detour would have made us miss the foodstore..):



It's so practical being able to crawl over a ditch and down into a garden every now and then! Just have to get my removable tow hitch to actually remove when not needed as it tends to dig into everything if I'm not really careful..

Hopefully I'll get around to a real computer again soon (that TF700 isn't really the best device for forum browsing/posting..), can't wait to move into the garage and get started doing fun stuff again!

Might be I do something with my donor truck as well, but as it's nothing more than an idea that has kept me awake all night I'll leave it simmering for a little longer.. hopefully I can get back to bed now and actually sleep a little.
 
Nice to see some progress! if that donor truck have some A/C tubes left, do for the name of god not throw them away! i really have a hard time to find the right tubes so i want to buy them from you.
 
Funny, what I have in mind for the donor involves removing the A/C completely... I'm sure whatever parts you need can find their way to you, I just can't promise to have them out and about any time soon :)

Then again, you might not be in desperate need of artificially cooled air right now..? ;)
 
Planning on adding 4 more once my future roof rack goes up.. one pair above the b pillars aimed so they light up the areas around the front tires, and one pair above the c pillars for general work/camping use... kinda want to hook them up to the door switches too, so they go on individually whenever a door on that side is opened when it's dark.
 
Long time, no update... Life kinda got in the way and I've been living out of a suitcase for large parts of the spring, bouncing around countries. Made it home just as the family dog went from bad to worse and had to euthanize her a few days ago. Off to another project across the country again on Monday, no rest for the wicked...

Anyway, gotten a couple of things done between the battles:

Finally got around to move the licence plate and mount the bumper horns and winch fairlead. No winch behind it just yet, what I had been told was a 10k lbs unit turned out to be Warn z3500 that's pretty rough around the edges. Might use it for a rear winch some time in the future...



Then I got the snorkel mounted, at least most of it. Still have to fabricate an A-pillar mount and heat it into place. Was too cold to bend it when I was doing it, and kinda never got around to continue since. Current sideways angle is a little odd, but it's rock solid and hardly moves at all even at 60mph. Ended up having to cut twice (even after measuring a lot more than once!), but as the current front fenders are ready for replacement anyway it didn't matter too much and I was more free to experiment. Decided it worked out better having it a little lower rather than flush with the hood as by design. Still have to hook it up to the engine, never had time to go into the garage to remove the coolant tank and make the necessary cuts.



Picked up four 7.5" long beams some time ago, apparently with the same performance as Hella Rallye 3003's at a third of the price. When I recently found a cheap roof cross bar to mount them on I had to get them up.



How do you guys get on top of the lifted ones?! I barely managed to get up there with the (otherwise tall) stepladder.



However, getting them to do anything but increase drag up there involved a bit of wiring.. and hey, when I first get started I tend to overdo things. Starting out, everything was quite fine as it was.



A couple of hours later, well, a little less fine.



Yeeeey, wires! Everywhere!



Removed the rust in the ceiling and gave it a nice thick insulation cover. Cables coming down mid-picture power each pair of the long beams, the front warning strobes and the roof marker lights. They go through the roof via deck fittings from a boat store, anchored in a piece of food. Seems to be keeping the water on the outside. Getting power from a pretty thick cable the previous owner used to drive a big sound system. Routed it up along the c-pillar, hidden inside the wall.



Did a little work in the back as well. Added a second camera and two C-somethings from a hardware store. I later mounted warning strobes and raised brake lights to these. All the cabling going through screw-on boat deck connectors I installed last fall... it pays off having a plan with these things.



Finally a chance to install the Starcraft roof console that came with my spare truck! Made a small modification to it, repurposing the originally empty storage tray to a button panel. Front plate is just a prototype made of something I found in a scrapped caravan... it was an absolute horror to cut (with an angle grinder) and it broke twice when drilling holes. Had to stop short of completing the last hole, or it would have disintegrated completely :/ Still looks good enough from a distance after a few coats with a rattle can, kinda matches the lexan. Switches aren't the prettiest, but according to the regulations I need a light to indicate whenever a work light or long beam is activated so I ended up combining it. A little dimly lit, but guess that's for the better at night.



More wiring, yey!! Got pretty full in there.. Two blue switches are for the inside/outside pair of long beams, orange for warning strobes, outside red for rear work lights, other red for future application. Should have been another red switch, but I couldn't make the hole for it.



After a very long day of wiring (some time I'll start writing stuff down rather than keeping it all in my head) and trying to somehow hold the whole console up with three hands while drilling holes and fitting screws with four other hands - all by myself - I think it came out pretty good. It's a little off to the right (would've been easier to judge with the sun visors mounted by then) but nothing bad.



The new screen replaces the rear view mirror. While it's a little more in the way and the technology has it's obvious limits it's still FAR better than the mirror it replaced... mostly only saw car interior there anyway. Turns out it's not interfering with driving at all as it's just above my line of sight. If it becomes a problem I'll switch the two cameras and when not using the upper screen as a backup camera I can flip it up and completely out of the way.



The two cameras overlap, and the side view mirrors take over towards the sides. Compared to the original setup I've eliminated most of my blind spots. I have a video cable coming down to the center console in case I get stuck somewhere and want to watch something from an A/V source.

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I've replaced all exterior lightbulbs with LED except for the front turning indicators (can't find a match) and the roof marking lights (LED replacements are too large). I also converted the backing up lights to turning indicators using orange LEDs. Works great! (b.u. lights are optional here)

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Lastly I've also installed four more relays in the front. Now I can switch between original US high/low beam layout (two of each) and H4 bulb setup (all four having both). Legally I'll have to stick with US layout to have one of the pairs up on the roof. The other pair I'm not sure how to make legal just yet :whistle:

On my immediate to-do list:
Finish replacing right-side exhaust system, hoping I won't also have to do the left side as well to pass inspection. Then doing a brake-light-only circuit for my raised brake lights and a euro-converted trailer coupling (no combined turn signal and stop lights allowed).
 
Glad to see you back.

Nice work on the rig. Now I understand the geek of norgeek. You have more LCD screens around your cockpit than a tv store.(adding in navavation and what looke like a tablet)

Keep it up.
 
Enjoying this thread! I always like you see how people in other countries modify American vehicles differently than we do :thumb:

Here is a source for leds that will work for your marker lights and cab lights:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/

They have an application section where you put in your car's info and it tells you what leds you need for each spot. I believe the ones you're looking for are all 194 or 168 bulbs.

Keep up the good work!
 
Amazing amount of wiring.

Might want to check on the amount of airflow that that snorkel can get seems a little small for the motor.
 
Jester1:

Haha, quite a lot of screens, yeah... there's also the phone cradle in the side corner window. And yeah, a Transformer tablet, mostly just running my music collection, but I have a CDMA always-online connection so I could do maps and stuff as well. I'll probably replace it with a small(er) smartphone when I get around to do a proper console. I know it all looks a little crowded, but it actually works out really well when it use.

noJeepshere:

Thanks for a good pointer! I'll have a look when I get back home, kinda stuck in a bus on a mountain until the weekend :whistle:

kgblazerfive:

I've made a mental note regarding the whole airflow situation.. it's a knock-off ARB Landcruiser 80-series model which I believe is the 'normal' choice for square body style snorkel installs. Will have to look into how it might affect a future turbo installation as well..

Thanks for the feedback all of you :)
 
Small, uninteresting, no-progress-made update;

First of all, I'm currently pretty immobile. Finally got around to take my truck in for the mandatory Norwegian 24-month technical inspection, half a week before the end of the 5 month deadline... I kinda forgot all about it :whistle:

Turned out the garage I went to (operated by the norwegian automobile association, supposed to the best) didn't have the equipment needed to lift the front wheels off of the ground :rolleyes: Test was aborted, but the mechanic told me the things he could have failed me on anyhow; front right brake caliper is funky (I knew about that), and left front spring is either suffering from a broken leaf or is just bent out of whack. Kinda knew about that too, just wasn't sure which corner it was. Until that's fixed, I'm without licence plates.. oups. On the plus side, I finally have access to my donor vehicle again and hopefully I'll get it moved to the garage I'm renting some time next week so I can take the parts I need from it. Planning on tearing it down completely, rebuilding each of the components, then putting them onto my truck as I finish with them... saves me from downtime while I figure out how to put them back together, I guess :doah:

Question, though, sort of: I've mentioned I'm considering a Banks Sidewinder turbo kit. With shipping over here and 25% VAT on everything, it will easily hit $3500+. Used kits are kinda ultra rare here. As an alternative I've started looking at a 6.5TD swap, preferrably a 1993 with a mechanical fuel pump, but apparently any year works with a DB2 conversion and a few extra bits and pieces. I am planning on removing my AC anyway to use the compressor for OBA, so it won't get in the way of the turbo. I'll start digging through this site for 6.2->6.5TD conversions on this site as soon as I get home from vacation, but if anyone has any general pointers or recommended threads or whatever, feel free to throw them up here. It's not an immediate concern anyhow, more like a fall/winter project. But, question at last; Will a working 1993 6.5TD with a mechanical pump be nothing more than an install-and-run swap, or will I have to make any sort of changes to it?

Anyway, until I'm back home, greetings from the Norwegian mountains :waytogo:

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My dads mid-70's Volvo B58-60 converted bus, sleeps and seats 7 very comfortably with pretty much all creature comforts, as well as a small garage in the back with space for a couple of motorbikes and all the tools needed on the road. 12 meters/39.5 feet long.

If anyone knows this classical piece by Grieg, it takes it's name from a place just over a mile from where we're spending the night.

 
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In the Hall of the Mountain King is an awesome song. And I don't care what anyone says, classical music is some of the best music on the planet.

As for your 6.5 conversion question, as long as it's mechanical, it should be plug and play, as the block is identical, just the crankshaft is different (iirc) to make the larger displacement.
 
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