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Sounds great!
For priming the oil system you should have done it with the valve covers off to see that the oil reached all the rocker arms.
I take it the engine is a roller cam?
 
sponsoredbydad said:
AHH YES! But like what no high 5'z? or Clanking of beer bottles? That was way worthy.
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Ya gotta know me by now....Plenty of beer can clashing by the ned of the day..:D

Thanks Chris..:waytogo:

Chevy305 said:
Sounds great!
For priming the oil system you should have done it with the valve covers off to see that the oil reached all the rocker arms.
I take it the engine is a roller cam?
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We did that first, until it overflowed. I had to clean all of the oil off the back of the block before we fired it up. First time seeing it do that. I thought it was pretty cool.

Yep on the roller cam.. :pimp:

Thanks too...:waytogo:
 
The "long shot" camera angle was better... It really captured the event and the overall situation better than the handheld camera did.

At first I wasn't sure which guy in the video was you. Then I saw the flip-flops! :haha:


-G
 
NorCal69 said:
I thought for sure too. I haven't tried anything else yet. When I take them off tomorrow, I'll see if there are any marks. It was so faint, but you knew that it was there, type of thing.
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If I were you I would look to see where they are rubbing, if they are, there will be marks on the rocker and the valve cover. I would consider clearancing the valve cover or the rocker itself if it is a small corner or a boss on the valve cover protruding down. You be the judge when you find it, I don't remember what rockers you have, full roller rockers?, aluminum or steel? If they are steel there isn't much material to clearance so then the valve cover is left. Sometimes the big square roller rockers you can remove a small amount of meterial from the corner and it won't effect the strength. I don't like the spacers because they just leave more room for leaks. You can also get really thick gaskets that are 1/4" thick or so if that fixes it.

Also, keep in mind, roller rockers do make noise, they sound more like a mechanical cam with the rattling noise they make, and aluminum valve covers amplify that sound.

And how did you hear that noise without mufflers? :dunno:

I know it feels good when you start and engine for the first time, keep up the sweet updates!
 
Greg72 said:
At first I wasn't sure which guy in the video was you. Then I saw the flip-flops! :haha:

-G
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Yep, busted with the flip flops. To many damn years with boots on. If I can, I will wear the flops.:pimp:



folkenheath said:
, I don't remember what rockers you have, full roller rockers?, aluminum or steel?

And how did you hear that noise without mufflers? :dunno:

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Full rollers and I do believe that all was steel.

As far as hearing.... I was in the infantry. They trained me to hear the smallest of noises. In fact last week, two flies f*cking on the hood of my neighbors car around midnight during a thunderstorm woke me up. :whistle: You just can't turn off the training, you know...:D




Really, there were three guys there and that is what we all thought. It was just a small tap. We put our hands on the VC's and it felt like it too. It could have been that we were all drinkin' and the fumes were getting to us also...:dunno: I should know a lot more tonight.
 
OK, I admit, I was being a little sarcastic because of the open headers comment, I could even hear it in the video when you brought the camera up close to the engine. I am sure you will get it figured out.

And Thank You for your service to our country.
 
Oh, I know where you were going with it Heath. Just wanted to give ya a little chit. :haha:

I'll keep you guys posted on what the VC look like tonight.

As always, thanks for all of the help from everyone... :bow::bow:
 
Deuling said:
I want to hear some Revs sOOO bad :thumb:
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Oh Really.....









How's this :whistle:







From outside the garage. Was hoping to get better sound.








And I think that these are what we were hearing. No marks what so ever. I already had the riser in my hand so they were installed for the time being instead of bringing out the grinder and taking down the tits. They must be for oil or something??


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Mike,

Yeah those are "oil drippers". Basically capturing any oil that is running around on the cover and drips it strategically onto the rockers to give them just a bit more lubrication.

I've seen lots of eBay auctions on old M/T covers where those have been ground down... And very few where they are completely unmolested. That leads me to believe that it's a common clearance issue with high-lift cams/rockers. You're running a rollercam retrofit setup so it's anyone's guess how that might change clearances under there. :thinking:


-G
 
NorCal69 said:
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Holy long pushrods batman. It's hard to tell from the picture, but do the roller tips on your rockers travel on the center of the valve stem throughout their travel? Because it looks like your roller tips are toward the outside of the valve stem, that, combined with the fact that your poly locks have almost 3/8" thread above the set screw, makes me think your pushrods are too long. But it could just be the angle of the picture tricking me, and maybe you have longer than stock valves and taller springs on a stock head?? You also might want to check thread engagement. With that much thread sticking up, and subtracting the set screw which is usually 7/16" long or so(same length as the stud diameter), you might not have many threads holding your rockers down. Poly locks are pretty long, so you might be fine, but I would check the rocker geometry and the thread engagement. You should have a minimum of 9 turns of thread engaged for 7/16" of engagement on a 7/16-20 thread.

If you aren't sure yourself, take a picture of the rocker from the front of the engine at rocker level, with the valve open, closed, and halfway open.

If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but I'd rather be safe and sorry than just sorry.
 
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ashman said:
sounds great man! you planning on making BB?
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Thanks Ash..:waytogo: I'd love to hit it, but it doesn't look like it's in the cards this year. Hopefully next year.

Greg72 said:
Mike,

Yeah those are "oil drippers". Basically capturing any oil that is running around on the cover and drips it strategically onto the rockers to give them just a bit more lubrication.

I've seen lots of eBay auctions on old M/T covers where those have been ground down... And very few where they are completely unmolested. That leads me to believe that it's a common clearance issue with high-lift cams/rockers. You're running a rollercam retrofit setup so it's anyone's guess how that might change clearances under there. :thinking:


-G
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Well, that makes a lot of sense. I'll take the grinder to them next weekend. Currently stuck in Monterey with the wife. She needed to get out of town. I have come to the conclusion that I like Humbolt, hippy greenies a lot better than Southern Prius driving, yuppie greenies. That's all I got for progress for this week. Told the wife, that this confirms why I'm building the rig. To get the hell away from people.

folkenheath said:
Holy long pushrods batman. It's hard to tell from the picture, but do the roller tips on your rockers travel on the center of the valve stem throughout their travel? Because it looks like your roller tips are toward the outside of the valve stem, that, combined with the fact that your poly locks have almost 3/8" thread above the set screw, makes me think your pushrods are too long. But it could just be the angle of the picture tricking me, and maybe you have longer than stock valves and taller springs on a stock head?? You also might want to check thread engagement. With that much thread sticking up, and subtracting the set screw which is usually 7/16" long or so(same length as the stud diameter), you might not have many threads holding your rockers down. Poly locks are pretty long, so you might be fine, but I would check the rocker geometry and the thread engagement. You should have a minimum of 9 turns of thread engaged for 7/16" of engagement on a 7/16-20 thread.

If you aren't sure yourself, take a picture of the rocker from the front of the engine at rocker level, with the valve open, closed, and halfway open.

If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but I'd rather be safe and sorry than just sorry.
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You know I'll post up the pics as I still have no clue what actually happens inside of that big orange pumpkin that sits between the frame rails. :D



Mr. Sharky said:
that's gonna be one awesome ride! :waytogo:
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I sure hope so. It's been a looooooong road thus far. Thanks :waytogo:

fishinnutt said:
Amazing attention to details, very nice truck!
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Huge compliment coming from you. Thank you.. :bow:
 
Man, you wouldn't think that two little pieces could take all day, but they sure as hell did..

Began the fab work on the center crossmemeber for the doubler. This is a far as I ended up last night. Hopefully after the lawn is done today, I can bolt them up and get the engine hoist of out of the garage. Months of crawling around that thing under the rig has turned into a love hate relationship, for sure.

On with the pics.

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Holy $hit Mike! Your fab skills are really starting to impress:bow: your rig is gonna be so sweet!
 
Thanks Guys. :waytogo: The fab stuff is coming along pretty good. It's the welding thing of mine that still looks like crap sometimes. At least going around round objects, that is. Unfortunately, that is most of this project. :doah:

I didn't get anything done on the rig yesterday. After I got done mowing and filling the dump trailer, I had two buds show up. They brought an old rusty 4" pipe that he wanted to mount an old bell on top of it. We fabbed up a mounting bracket for the bell and painted it up all nice. I did learn something though. The night before when I was welding up those crossmember pieces I ran out of .035. All I had left in the garage was some .025 for the sheet metal.

Well I loaded it into the 211 and welded up a bunch of 1/4" plate for this bell thing. Although it was a lot slower, even with the speed cranked up a bit, but the welds came out looking so much better. Nice and smooth, with great penetration too.

I think that I'm going to buy some .030 this next time around and see how that does. I know a lot of the guys just use .030 for everything and like it. The way that I'm thinking is, I take forever to get every thing really nice fitting next to each other, tubes, plates etc. I rarely even have the smallest of gap between the two pieces that I'm welding together. I shouldn't need the big fat wire, correct??
 
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