Earlier today I let my mind go to its little Frankenstein garage area, and I came up with an idea. Could you make a 6x6 by putting a second transfer case backwards and using an offset diff axle as the middle axle?
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A 6x6 theory
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interesting though
some serious adapters needed though
interesting though
some serious adapters needed though
y5mgisi
1 ton status
Pretty sure that's just how they do it. On conversions anyway.
y5mgisi
1 ton status
Well then.
I wish I could think of anything original.
I wish I could think of anything original.
Irish1941
1/2 ton status
Good thinking outside the norm but you're about 70 yrs too late.
Dodge did it in '44. WC -63
Never owned one but knew a guy who did.
Rear axle set up is wacky. Not like highway tractors but twin drive shafts to t-case using PTO to drive rear axle!
This is a model but is extremely accurate to real setup.
Look thru this resto album and you'll get a good idea of what Dodge did.
https://plus.google.com/photos/111844354492279871182/albums/5359210788038655137?banner=pwa
Dodge did it in '44. WC -63
Never owned one but knew a guy who did.
Rear axle set up is wacky. Not like highway tractors but twin drive shafts to t-case using PTO to drive rear axle!
This is a model but is extremely accurate to real setup.
Look thru this resto album and you'll get a good idea of what Dodge did.
https://plus.google.com/photos/111844354492279871182/albums/5359210788038655137?banner=pwa
Interesting old truck there, Always liked the old Power Wagons, never knew there was a military 6x6 variant.
I wonder though, I'm doubtful on the old Dodge, but what if you could, if you were so inclined, go to just 2wd? Since it is a transfer case, you could have 2wd, 4wd, or 6wd, Although having one in High and the other in Low could be interesting, probably in a bad way.
I wonder though, I'm doubtful on the old Dodge, but what if you could, if you were so inclined, go to just 2wd? Since it is a transfer case, you could have 2wd, 4wd, or 6wd, Although having one in High and the other in Low could be interesting, probably in a bad way.
Irish1941
1/2 ton status
Those old WCs were full time 4wd. You had hi or low or neutral and about 35 mph.
I say go for 8x8! Two front drivers and two rear drivers on a Suburban!
Seeing you opened the multi axle idea, check out these kooky Russians (I think Russian) and their off road multi axle trucks. They sure aren't nice to them!
10 ton truck in 5' of mud…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPDwykpH9K8
I say go for 8x8! Two front drivers and two rear drivers on a Suburban!
Seeing you opened the multi axle idea, check out these kooky Russians (I think Russian) and their off road multi axle trucks. They sure aren't nice to them!
10 ton truck in 5' of mud…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPDwykpH9K8
Backroads
1/2 ton status
I think the m211 m135 series (?) 1950s GM 2 1/2 ton trucks had a similar transfer case to the picture of the model above. They did not have top loader axles.
These trucks are not easy to find, but they are undesirable. I've seen them for sale very cheap and in junkyards.
These trucks are not easy to find, but they are undesirable. I've seen them for sale very cheap and in junkyards.
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I've seen a few of those 6x6's in local junkyards--the transfer case is a Rockwell HUGE beast that weighs 500 lbs probably...the shafts coming out of it that drive the rear most axle looked rather dinky to me,compared to the size of the other "main" shaft and the size of the truck it had to propel...but I guess it was proven to work,or they would have upgraded to a larger one..
Using a truck like the one pictured above would be the simplest way to get a 6x6...one junkyard that bought several of those at government auction uses 2 of them as yard trucks to drag cars around,haul parts,and plow..one still has the multi-fuel Continental diesel,one of the others they swapped in a 454 and TH400 from an old motor home...the think is an awesome beast..another one they had ,they put a 250 straight six chevy in it,it did OK but the engine was tired and started blowing oil,so the parked it..
I have seen come custom "tandem axle" trucks like a 72 Suburban that guys did at home,one had a V-drive case from an inboard engine boat to "split" the driveshafts from one to two,so one could power the second axle..
Using a truck like the one pictured above would be the simplest way to get a 6x6...one junkyard that bought several of those at government auction uses 2 of them as yard trucks to drag cars around,haul parts,and plow..one still has the multi-fuel Continental diesel,one of the others they swapped in a 454 and TH400 from an old motor home...the think is an awesome beast..another one they had ,they put a 250 straight six chevy in it,it did OK but the engine was tired and started blowing oil,so the parked it..
I have seen come custom "tandem axle" trucks like a 72 Suburban that guys did at home,one had a V-drive case from an inboard engine boat to "split" the driveshafts from one to two,so one could power the second axle..
1BEATK5
1/2 ton status
There was a truck in pedersons that had a th400/205 and a divorced 203. The 203 was backwards, being driven threw the rear output to dual 14 bolts.
Really similar to the gmc 6x6 setup.
Really similar to the gmc 6x6 setup.
We have one of those old GMC's in the junkyard here too, there not using it though, someone scrapped it.
Never looked too close at it, but I know it still has the old multifuel engine in it.
Never looked too close at it, but I know it still has the old multifuel engine in it.
The GMC's didn't have multifuel engines. Old White inline 6's.
The Kaiser M35 family of Deuces brought in the Rockwell axles and multifuel engines (but originally were gassers too).
The Kaiser M35 family of Deuces brought in the Rockwell axles and multifuel engines (but originally were gassers too).
some guy recently did this with a jeep.
Looks pretty stupid (even for a jeep)
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-non-hardcore/1055085-urban-assault-tj-zombie-killer-build-7.html
Looks pretty stupid (even for a jeep)
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-non-hardcore/1055085-urban-assault-tj-zombie-killer-build-7.html
I believe the NP200 transfer case (found in the M-715 and M-37s) can be converted to a dual rear output. It's divorce mounted so that would make it easier to swap
You can add anonther output to a np205.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/34892-np205-2-rear-outputs-done.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/34892-np205-2-rear-outputs-done.html
What looks stupid to me, is that it seems like the back sits higher than the front. Also, he should have put a gun ring mount in the middle
It just looked like it was the old inline 6, I just assumed it was a multifuel.
My computer got kicked offline while trying to read the M-715 build,dont know why,it just started running the hard drive for several minutes and refused to download any more pictures--had to restart it...maybe its a fluke,but I'm staying off that site...
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