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Addressing 6.2L Oil leak(s)

That's what I meant--wont be looking at it till spring though--maybe never!...long as it keeps running,I'm not going to touch anything --the old saying my dad was fond of "If it ain't broke,don't fix it" is true..
I should have listened to him more when I was young,and "knew it all"..
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That's what I meant--wont be looking at it till spring though--maybe never!...long as it keeps running,I'm not going to touch anything --the old saying my dad was fond of "If it ain't broke,don't fix it" is true..
I should have listened to him more when I was young,and "knew it all"..
:blush:

^^^ I'm wrestling with this well known life lesson as well as it relates to this project.. Beyond the minor oil leak(s).. My C code is 100% stock and runs beautifully.. Do I dare mess with it?!.. I guess eliminating the EGR isn't really "messing" with it to much.. But I do wonder if the benefits will be noticeable enough to justify the effort of swapping intakes..
 
^^^ I'm wrestling with this well known life lesson as well as it relates to this project.. Beyond the minor oil leak(s).. My C code is 100% stock and runs beautifully.. Do I dare mess with it?!.. I guess eliminating the EGR isn't really "messing" with it to much.. But I do wonder if the benefits will be noticeable enough to justify the effort of swapping intakes..

On the plus side, you don't hafta take off the injector lines to swap intakes. There are no oil/water gaskets to mess up. It's a pretty low-risk endeavor. Whether it's worth the time is another matter, but disconnecting the EGR/EPR solenoids is a 5-second affair.

If you're wanting to fully remove injector lines to redo the valve cover gasket (you can bend the lines out of the way but it's less than ideal), you will have the intake off anyway. At that point it would be no extra work at all. :thinking:
 
On the plus side, you don't hafta take off the injector lines to swap intakes. There are no oil/water gaskets to mess up. It's a pretty low-risk endeavor. Whether it's worth the time is another matter, but disconnecting the EGR/EPR solenoids is a 5-second affair.

If you're wanting to fully remove injector lines to redo the valve cover gasket (you can bend the lines out of the way but it's less than ideal), you will have the intake off anyway. At that point it would be no extra work at all. :thinking:

^^ ahh yes. The silver lining.. I like it!.. I'm gonna go ahead an buy a J code intake.. There's plenty out there for $75 to $100 so I may as well get one.. That way if I already have the intake I'm more likely to Jedi mind trick myself into doing it.. It think the PIA of having to take the truck to a shop to install a cross over pipe is really what's holding me back.. I'd like to just swap the intakes and be done with it, but I'm getting the impression that the crossover is kind of a must do for this.. Is it not?..
 
^^ ahh yes. The silver lining.. I like it!.. I'm gonna go ahead an buy a J code intake.. There's plenty out there for $75 to $100 so I may as well get one.. That way if I already have the intake I'm more likely to Jedi mind trick myself into doing it.. It think the PIA of having to take the truck to a shop to install a cross over pipe is really what's holding me back.. I'd like to just swap the intakes and be done with it, but I'm getting the impression that the crossover is kind of a must do for this.. Is it not?..

Crossover is not a must. Not sure where you got that idea. It's not even how the factory did it. You do want to run a crossover pipe when running a 6.5 turbo setup, but there is no connection between J-code intakes and crossover exhaust.
 
Crossover is not a must. Not sure where you got that idea. It's not even how the factory did it. You do want to run a crossover pipe when running a 6.5 turbo setup, but there is no connection between J-code intakes and crossover exhaust.

^^ Got it.. That's good to hear.. I read a some posts out there in Internet land that without the crossover it'll be louder and have that irritating "brap" sound that I suppose some guys like.. Perhaps I read to much into those comments..
 
^^ Got it.. That's good to hear.. I read a some posts out there in Internet land that without the crossover it'll be louder and have that irritating "brap" sound that I suppose some guys like.. Perhaps I read to much into those comments..

That sound is a function of exhaust geometry and muffler choice. Things you won't be changing. I would be surprised if you noticed any change in sound (I didn't). But you would hear a change if you were to redo the exhaust.
 
I did a J on C code swap with stock duals. I didn't notice any change in sound.
 
Hey guys.. There are a couple of j-codes on eBay that come with the intake "hat".. I'm trying to figure out how this replaces the round air cleaner and filter.. Is there a filter contained inside the hat?.. I don't see many pics of 6.2's with the hat.. Were they not popular for some reason?..
 
You mean this thing? This is how the turbine gets attached, it is not used for N/A operation. J-code engines came with the same air cleaner assemblies as C-codes.


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You mean this thing? This is how the turbine gets attached, it is not used for N/A operation. J-code engines came with the same air cleaner assemblies as C-codes.


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^^ yep.. That's it.. Geeze it's humbling not knowing what any of this stuff is.. But I'm learnin'!.. Thanks once again campfire!..
 
^^ yep.. That's it.. Geeze it's humbling not knowing what any of this stuff is.. But I'm learnin'!.. Thanks once again campfire!..

Be careful what you buy, as that 6-bolt top will not attach to a J-code manifold without modifications. It is a 6.5 part and the manifold mounting surface is different.

This is what C-code and J-code manifolds look like. Aside from the EGR passage & valve, they are very similar. In this case, the J-code is an '82 or '83 as it has the mounting boss for the secondary fuel filter at the rear (84+ rigs have only one filter so this boss was eliminated on later models).

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The 6.5 manifold, pairing with that "hat," looks like this. The center 2 studs share the same spacing, but aside from that the mounting surface has a very different, non-round shape.

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The mounting surface is also most of an inch lower than the 6.2 manifolds. I installed one of these, mated to my old round air cleaner (via the 2 center studs), and wound up needing to clearance the air cleaner so it didn't contact the injection pump. It's not actually touching, but this is after adjusting it a bit.

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And as I noted above, the 6.5 manifold has no CDR ports, so mine now vent to atmosphere. Definitely not great, but I still haven't talked myself into adding the turbine setup yet. It has deposited a thin layer of rust-proofing oil on the fender over the last few thousand miles.

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Be careful what you buy, as that 6-bolt top will not attach to a J-code manifold without modifications. It is a 6.5 part and the manifold mounting surface is different.

This is what C-code and J-code manifolds look like. Aside from the EGR passage & valve, they are very similar. In this case, the J-code is an '82 or '83 as it has the mounting boss for the secondary fuel filter at the rear (84+ rigs have only one filter so this boss was eliminated on later models).

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The 6.5 manifold, pairing with that "hat," looks like this. The center 2 studs share the same spacing, but aside from that the mounting surface has a very different, non-round shape.

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The mounting surface is also most of an inch lower than the 6.2 manifolds. I installed one of these, mated to my old round air cleaner (via the 2 center studs), and wound up needing to clearance the air cleaner so it didn't contact the injection pump. It's not actually touching, but this is after adjusting it a bit.

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And as I noted above, the 6.5 manifold has no CDR ports, so mine now vent to atmosphere. Definitely not great, but I still haven't talked myself into adding the turbine setup yet. It has deposited a thin layer of rust-proofing oil on the fender over the last few thousand miles.

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Outstanding info!.. Does it matter if I get an 82' 83' j code with that mount for the scondary fuel filter?.. Or do I have to get an 84' and later J code with my truck being an 84' and no secondary filter?..
 
Outstanding info!.. Does it matter if I get an 82' 83' j code with that mount for the scondary fuel filter?.. Or do I have to get an 84' and later J code with my truck being an 84' and no secondary filter?..

Doesn't matter. You'll just have 2 unused mounting holes at the back end, no biggie. My 6.5 manifold has 2 (different) holes back there for the 6.5 fuel filter (which I don't have). I thought about reusing them and fabbing up an adapter bracket for my secondary filter (Being an '83, I have dual spin-on filters, you can see the primary one in the previous picture). But after thinking about how awkward it is getting to that filter (hanging under the manifold and wedged next to the vacuum pump :doah:), I opted to bypass it and simply run the primary 10-micron filter. This is what GM started doing in '84, so I'm not overly concerned about it. As far as I can tell, GM only used the dual filters as a response to the horrible experience they had with the Olds 350 diesel (one of the several recurring warranty issues on those engines was IP failure due to contaminated fuel). After a couple years they dropped it, and after a few more years they eventually got rid of the Water In Fuel warning light, too.

These trucks had various changes every model year. Some minor, some major.
 
Nice day today so I figured I'd start with what's easy.. I removed and cleaned the CDR and all of the associated lines and fittings.. Gave everything a varsol bath till they were as clean as could be.. Cleaned my valve covers and everything else I could reach top side and underneath that was wet with oil. So I could watch to see if cleaning the CDR did anything.. With all of the parts off I also went around and put a wrench on every nut and bolt I could reach to check for tightness.. When i did the valve covers. The top bolts were quite loose on both sides.. Anyone ever experience that with valve covers?.. Can the bolts vibrate loose over time?.. That's the only thing I can think of to cause them to be so loose.. I snugged them all up, reinstalled the CDR and all parts and went for a long drive.. The truck ran great the way it always does.. Got home, cracked a beer and watched for oil.. After an hour no drips which is great but I'm not convinced I have improved anything just yet.. After all I had just thoroughly wiped and cleaned up top and down below. Being realistic I do expect to see oil sooner than later.. I'm just curious as to how much I'll see compared to before.. Anyway, that's the update.. I found a J code last week and orderd it.. Gonna order a new CDR too.. Since you can't see inside the CDR I have absolutely no idea if cleaning it accomplished anything or not and it can't hurt to have a new on on hand..
 
I've resisted trying to "clean" my CDR valve ,as they have a diaphram inside that might not like solvents...but I've seen where it is reccomended to flush them out every so often,diesel fuel probably wont hurt one...

My experience with loose valve cover bolts is they loosen due to the gasket shrinking more often than just backing themselves off,and tightening them may end up cutting the gasket or warping the cover,that is assuming the covers aren't just "glued" on with RTV--on a 6.2 they may well be,I think factory was RTV only,but aftermarket gaskets can be bought for them..most owners dont like gaskets and use "Right Stuff" or similar RTV on them instead..

My 6.2 seems to leak like a sieve at times,then it wont leak hardly at all for quite a few miles--I think the colder it gets outside the longer it takes for the 15W-40 to get thinned out enough to actually leak out of the various places--once spring comes I'm sure it'll be a lot "leakier" ..
 
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