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Alloy USA and Yukon stub shafts

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I was told by one of the vendors on this site that the company that makes Alloy USA's axle shafts also makes Yukon's shafts. He said everything except the black coating on the outside is the same. The Alloy USA shafts are coated the Yukon shafts are not. He said the uncoated shafts are better because you can see if they are cracked.

I asked him if you can use the Yukon stubs with the stock inners and he said you can.
Then I asked him about this.
Georga Gabe said:
I tried to use the stock 35 spline inner with the Yukon Chromo 35 spline outer to keep from buying the outer twice. It does NOT work... the ears are so much thicker on the chromo shaft that they will not articulate into the corresponding pocket on the stock shaft. So your steering is severely compromised.
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He said he hasn't had any of his customers complain about it and they (Yukon and Alloy USA) are the same.

I would like to buy Alloy USA shafts but this is what they are saying "We do not have an exact eta for these shafts right now. I know they are in the works but it will be no less than 30 days before we see them."

The vendor told me Yukon was buying all of the axles so Alloy USA couldn't get any.

What do you think of all of this info? I don't think I believe all of it.
How many people have had the problem Georga Gabe had?

I broke a 30 spline Dana 60 stub shaft the last time I was playing in the mud. What should I do?

Thanks,
Mike
 
I run Yukon 35-spline stubs with OEM style Spicer inners and have no problems with them. Honestly I have no idea what the guy was trying to explain as to why it would not work...if the Yukon stubs had interference issues with stock shafts because of the amount of material around the yoke then I would think it would be even worse with a Yukon inner because the yoke on that one would have more material too and interfere even sooner?????
 
I also have yukon 35 spline stubs and stock inners. Last weekend I jacked up the front of the truck and turned the wheels lock to lock while spinning the tire. No bind at all
 
I am not sure if there were two different designs on the yukons or the spicers. I do know that the chromo yukon stubs would not turn to the angle that the stock spicers would before binding. On the yukons, not only is the ear bigger, but the pocket in the corresponding shaft is bigger that allows the ear to rotate into. It might not be an issue, I just didnt want to put it togeather and find out that it would not work. It seemed to bind at around half of the angle that I got when I went chromo inner and outer.
gabe

here is the Yukon chromo outer

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I have been told that Alloy USA and Yukon come out of the same plant in India but that doesn't mean they are the same shafts. Chevy Caviliers and Corvettes probably come out of the same place too but that doesn't mean they are the same. I am not a Yukon fan. The D60 35 spline stuff seems to last pretty well but every other shaft of theres that I have had experience with myself or with friends has been crap.

RacingRon on Pirate (alloy USA rep) claims that only 60 broken D44 shafts out of 84,000 sold. Between myself and several friends we broke at least a dozen D44 shafts from Yukon. All the AZ guys I wheel with are done with using any axle Yukon sells. We have literally broken every one they have sent out, and one was cracked before it was ever even put in.

I broke my first Yukon less then 15 minutes into its first trip and I hadn't even done anything hard yet. They claim they had a bad batch or stock replacements were mislabelled but they next set they sent me snapped with just a little more trail time on them. I honestly think that Yukon 4340 D44 axles are no stronger then stock. I have wheeled harder longer on stock axles then the Yukons ever did. The most I ever had a Yukon last was 1.5 trails.

The last Yukon I broke was a shortside stubshaft. I had STOCK shafts on the longside. :dunno:

Harley
 
I've seen Alloy USA and Yukon shafts side by side, I assure you that they don't use the same mold. They are obviously different, past the black coating.
 
Hossbaby50 said:
I have been told that Alloy USA and Yukon come out of the same plant in India but that doesn't mean they are the same shafts. Chevy Caviliers and Corvettes probably come out of the same place too but that doesn't mean they are the same. I am not a Yukon fan. The D60 35 spline stuff seems to last pretty well but every other shaft of theres that I have had experience with myself or with friends has been crap.

RacingRon on Pirate (alloy USA rep) claims that only 60 broken D44 shafts out of 84,000 sold. Between myself and several friends we broke at least a dozen D44 shafts from Yukon. All the AZ guys I wheel with are done with using any axle Yukon sells. We have literally broken every one they have sent out, and one was cracked before it was ever even put in.

I broke my first Yukon less then 15 minutes into its first trip and I hadn't even done anything hard yet. They claim they had a bad batch or stock replacements were mislabelled but they next set they sent me snapped with just a little more trail time on them. I honestly think that Yukon 4340 D44 axles are no stronger then stock. I have wheeled harder longer on stock axles then the Yukons ever did. The most I ever had a Yukon last was 1.5 trails.

The last Yukon I broke was a shortside stubshaft. I had STOCK shafts on the longside. :dunno:

Harley
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Have you or anyone you wheel with broken a Yukon 4340 Dana 60 35 spline shaft? If so, how did they do it.

Thanks,
Mike
 
You could get some Superior Shafts. Nice quality and have been holding up great. The ones I bought were even made in the USA.
 
UPS said:
Have you or anyone you wheel with broken a Yukon 4340 Dana 60 35 spline shaft? If so, how did they do it.

Thanks,
Mike
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No, nobody I run has the 35 spl Yukon. az-k5 snapped the 30 spl 4340 D60 stubs in 2 runs though. He had over 10 major runs since he snapped the last stock 30 spline stub, and got the Yukon's as a little extra guarantee. He snapped them in 2 run, and he was hitting the same trails as the stock one. He had 40" MTR's and a doubler in a 5K rig.

Like I said earlier, the 35 spl D60 stuff seems to be the only axle from them that lasts, but there quality contrl sucks and I would be a little leary about that because someday the 35spl D60 stuff will probably head down the same road as the rest of there axles.
 
My buddy Justin has broken 3 alloy usa stubs on his 44 with a pretty light toyota. Before that he broke two dutchman stubs.
gabe
 
I'm not disputing any of the claims above, and it very well may be true that some Yukon's are no stronger than OEM shafts. However I do have a hard time believing that somebody "upgrades" a part and then drives it exactly the same as they did before. There also could be some bad luck involved......any anytime I hear D44, fullsize rig, and off-road at the same time breakage is the first thing on mind. Again, not trying to dispute anything just trying to point out some other possible explanations.

With that said I am running the 35-spline Yukon stubs with 39.5x15s. I previously ran Spicer 30-spline stubs with 38x13s and grenaded 2 and found a 3rd twisted when I replaced them, so we'll see what happens. 78Buford is runnin a full set of Yukons in his big-block, 42" tire, 6-7k lb. rig (pending how many tools and spares he has in the bed). He did break a 35-spline Spicer stub but some other issues probably contributed to this.
 
Stomis said:
Go for longfield cv's :D

Can dream right?
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$1800 or $1600 :eek1: ,which ever they are, is alot different than $280 for Alloy USA stub shafts shipped to my door.:D

Mike
 
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6.2Blazer said:
However I do have a hard time believing that somebody "upgrades" a part and then drives it exactly the same as they did before.
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I upgraded to 4340 35 spline outers and non neckdown inners(no turning radius binding) from all spicer 35 spline parts and drive a lot more cautiously than I did since I know what it cost to replace these parts.
 
muddermilitia said:
Isn't there a crazy long waiting period for these?
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ive been waiting on alloy usa stub shafts for over four months. every couple weeks i call and they say they will be here in a couple weeks. i think im just going to get longfeilds. it would suck if i get the alloy usa's in and shortly after that break them and have to wait another half a year to get them replaced.
 
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