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Another Welder Question

MrArmyAnt said:
Found compressor on site, title to link is 2 hp, title on page says 6 hp, description says 2 hp, pic says 6. wtf? http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00916734000

99% of the time, the advertised horsepower of electric motors is the peak HP, which is the HP it puts out during starting (most consumer-type electric motors are most powerful at nearly 0 rpm). That's the 6hp you see advertised, and more than likely the word "peak" is very close to the 6, but in small print.
The 2hp is the running HP of the motor at it's rated RPM, and is much closer to what the motor actually produces. But this is deceptive too - most manufacturers give HP ratings based on an assumed 100% efficiency, which doesn't happen. Generally, you can subtract anywhere from 15-25% from the running HP number, and that's more like the real-world output.
 
what he said

6hp peak 2 hp nominal i have yet to find anything it won't run and i've had a 3/4" impact on it but when you get up into these larger air tools you have to stop and let the compressor catch back up...but like i said that was a 3/4" impact...your normal everyday hobby shop type tools it will run all day with out stopping....the 6 scfm is correct and that will run just about anything, and it is a 100 % duty cycle.....oh yea that was a sale price that included their $120 air tool set the 1/2" impact, 3/8"air ratchet, and an air chisel all in a neat plastic holder. you are suppossed to have a sears membership card not credit card...its a card that gives you 10% off of anything you buy even items on sale i didn't have 1 but promised i would mail my form off for 1 so they sold me the compressor and tool kit for $299 + tax, if i would have already had the sears membership card i could have saved another $30..but i sent off for it so i can get the 10% discount on my air saber body saw and die gringer and such.....the web site may not show this paticular deal i saw it in a flyer that sears put in our local news paper,went to the store then found out about card to get the deal but i had the flyer and it said nothing about this card.. so he sold it to me but without the extra 10% off...i have applied for it because you get 10% off of items that are on sale and already marked down quite abit...it would have covered my taxes on this $299 compressor plus it came with their air tool set...i couldn't pass...it pumps up to 150 psi and restarts at 120 psi, and since most air tools want 90 psi...it will handle most tools.....like i said above it will even run air hog tools with the occasional break on the compressor...
 
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its 6 scfm at 90 psi

its like 11 (I THINK) at 40 psi just to clarify................i just looked at your link and that is the air compressor, except i bought the upright...vertical tank compressor right above the one you showed because of the rounded end on the bottom with the water drain at the lowest point, plus it doesn't take up as much floor space and you can take off the wheels and the front rubber feet and it sits level with holes in the feet to redhead it to the floor!
 
if you have the $ i would say definitly the black pro series

it runs on gas so therefore can be used anywhere but the other horizontal red one does come with the tools, this is it same as the 1 you linked 2 except it stands up,but no comparision to that gas powered black craftsman professional,....... but this what i bought but i'm also dumping alot of money into a motor right now

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00916732000

that is the same compressor you linked to except it is the vertical one and it says it comes with the tool kit

now if you can spend that kind of money on your last link buy almeans it has better #'s plus its a gasoline engine and you can use it any where..the 1 we were 1st talking about is an electric and if you go and look at them check out how they rate their compressors with that star systyem and the 1st one we look at says its a 6 and will run anything you can imagine except for the last 5-6 tools they list at the top of the list like 1 " impact, inline sanders and etc. it says it will run them but just intermittantly if i had the money the 2nd one you pointed out is probally the 1 i would have gotten...that way you can put it in your truck and runn it out in the middle of a field or swamp, which could come in handy when wheelin
 
Well I do have the money sort of. Lol. I'd rather do it right. I also though about just buying the tank and getting a pump and using an old motor (honda lawn mower) I have lying around for it. How loud do you think it is? I wonder how large too. Anyone ever see coupons for that stufF? I have 10% off coupons for Home depot and lowes, and of course those 20% off for harbour freight, for any ONE item. Shouldn't sears match that?
 
What about the Lincoln Weld Pak 3200HD ($459 @ Home Depot)? It's suppossed to do up to 5/16's and is gas ready. It's a 120v unit rated at 25 - 135 amps.

Would this be a good welder for a "leaner"? I'm not looking to do heavy work, just junk on my own stuff (like a weld on steering brace, etc).
 
I just bought this 26 Gallon (135 PSI max) compressor about two months ago from Home Depot for $300. It came with impact gun, air ratchet, air chisell (3 bits), air grease gun, general purpose air sprayer, and jet air nozzles.

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thats basically the craftsman i bought

almost the same as the craftsman and the same price and accessories, but if you can, i believe you will like that gasoline powered compressor alot better because you dont have to have a plug in therefore it will run in the middle of the woods if needed and at 10cfm it will run anything you will ever possibly need...i believe thats enuff air to run a sand blaster. if i wasn't in the process of putting a $10,000 motor together i probally would have upped my compressor limit to about $750 and got a ingersol ran gas motor that you roll around like a wheelbarrow, but i went to look at a $469 compressor and bumped into this 1 and it came with a air tool kit and it was on sale, so i bought it, but believe me in the long run , somewhere down the road , someday i will wish i had that gas powered compressor! as for noise all the honda powered equipment isn't as loud as the briggs and stratton but it will be about like a lawn mower the 1st one we looked at and the one i linked to just has a loud humm to them, but i believe oneday you will say i'm glad i got this gas burner compressor due to its versatility!
 
thats a good rig learner or not

nvrenuf said:
What about the Lincoln Weld Pak 3200HD ($459 @ Home Depot)? It's suppossed to do up to 5/16's and is gas ready. It's a 120v unit rated at 25 - 135 amps.

Would this be a good welder for a "leaner"? I'm not looking to do heavy work, just junk on my own stuff (like a weld on steering brace, etc).

exactly what i said good welder even for experienced welders and because it has the infinite amp adjustment and wire feed it will be easier to learn on than the machines that have a set wire speed or set amperage and you have to balance one to the nonadjustable other....this way you can fine tune both the wire speed and your amperage
 
nvrenuf said:
What about the Lincoln Weld Pak 3200HD ($459 @ Home Depot)? It's suppossed to do up to 5/16's and is gas ready. It's a 120v unit rated at 25 - 135 amps.

Would this be a good welder for a "leaner"? I'm not looking to do heavy work, just junk on my own stuff (like a weld on steering brace, etc).

I'd be curious on this one too..... I'm starting to look at welders myself and am wondering what specs to look for in a relatively inexpensive (<$800) welder
 
Infinite adjustments

Duty cycle (higher is better)

Gas ready

length of gun (10' is so much better than 6')

machine brand


Let's be honest, the big name brands are better quality. That doesn't mean you can't do the job with a Clarke or Cambell Hausfeld if you have to, just that if you ran any of the 'budget' brands back to back with a Miller or Lincoln you'd feel the difference immediately.

Rene
 
tRustyK5 said:
Infinite adjustments

Duty cycle (higher is better)

Gas ready

length of gun (10' is so much better than 6')

machine brand


Let's be honest, the big name brands are better quality. That doesn't mean you can't do the job with a Clarke or Cambell Hausfeld if you have to, just that if you ran any of the 'budget' brands back to back with a Miller or Lincoln you'd feel the difference immediately.

Rene

x2

Lincon parts (the basics) being at homedepot is about the only benifit I see of them over a Miller.
 

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