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Any tips on drilling into the frame?

I like using a bit like the Dewalt pilot point or Black & Decker "bullit" bits that have the double point tip--they allow you to use the drill's O.D. to center the bit by putting it in the hole on the part to be fastened (in your case the crossmember/motor mount pad bracket)...they do drill slower in my experience however,so I often get impatient and after I get the "pilot" hole started,I usually step up to the final size drill it takes...
 
If you do a fair bit of drilling, and/or want to be precise, these aren't bad: http://www.harborfreight.com/28-piece-transfer-punch-set-3577.html

May not be needed in this case, but when I'm trying to do something fairly precise, they work good, especially when you are dealing with trying to start drilling a large hole and keeping it somewhat where it needs to be to line up.
 
Just out of curiosity, any particular reason for going to a V-6 from a V-8? In these trucks dealing with a V-6 is going to be more trouble and more money to get less power.

Ok, to further expand:

When the 305 overheated last october (will describe that later) i contemplated just getting a crate 350. This would have been simpler and truck would most likely be running again by now.

Actually what i really wanted was a diesel. But i'm not real familiar with the 6.2 vs. gas engines---even though diesel is simpler. But i think a diesel swap would require a lot of parts and pieces which aren't there now. Whereas with an 8 to 6 swap everythings pretty much there. Though some modifications might be required---such as lengthening hoses, drilling etc. But everything is basically there. i felt i didn't have time to research diesel right now. Maybe it will be my next project.

i had actually bought a 4.3 cheap before the 305 expired just to experiment with and because i really like this engine. It sat in the garage for a while. When the 305 gave up, this seemed like the natural choice.

The truck had a 350 before the 305. Both got about average 16 mpg. Both were able to get about 17.56 ish on long highway trips. Being that i use the truck for daily transportation with the ability to do occasional weekend hauling (mostly hardware store or large but not super heavy items) i did not feel 16mpg is acceptable for me.

Now, will 43 less cubes really make a significant difference? Well, it's more than just 43 inches;

Less pistons/cylinders, main bearing, lifters equal less friction.
125 lbs. less weight.
Less rotational weight due to shorter crank, cam.
Less reciprocating weight.

So, i'm betting at least 19mpg which i would be somewhat satisfied with given the size of the truck.

Really, in the long run i feel i will be happier with this engine vs. another 8 even though thinking more about it if i had gone with a crate 350 it would not have been a terrible choice given that i'm pretty busy and short on time these days.

P.S.
The 4.3 makes almost as much HP and the same torque as the LG3 305. Albeit the torque happens 400rpm higher on the 4.3
 
Ok, to further expand:

When the 305 overheated last october (will describe that later) i contemplated just getting a crate 350. This would have been simpler and truck would most likely be running again by now.

Actually what i really wanted was a diesel. But i'm not real familiar with the 6.2 vs. gas engines---even though diesel is simpler. But i think a diesel swap would require a lot of parts and pieces which aren't there now. Whereas with an 8 to 6 swap everythings pretty much there. Though some modifications might be required---such as lengthening hoses, drilling etc. But everything is basically there. i felt i didn't have time to research diesel right now. Maybe it will be my next project.

i had actually bought a 4.3 cheap before the 305 expired just to experiment with and because i really like this engine. It sat in the garage for a while. When the 305 gave up, this seemed like the natural choice.

The truck had a 350 before the 305. Both got about average 16 mpg. Both were able to get about 17.56 ish on long highway trips. Being that i use the truck for daily transportation with the ability to do occasional weekend hauling (mostly hardware store or large but not super heavy items) i did not feel 16mpg is acceptable for me.

Now, will 43 less cubes really make a significant difference? Well, it's more than just 43 inches;

Less pistons/cylinders, main bearing, lifters equal less friction.
125 lbs. less weight.
Less rotational weight due to shorter crank, cam.
Less reciprocating weight.

So, i'm betting at least 19mpg which i would be somewhat satisfied with given the size of the truck.

Really, in the long run i feel i will be happier with this engine vs. another 8 even though thinking more about it if i had gone with a crate 350 it would not have been a terrible choice given that i'm pretty busy and short on time these days.

P.S.
The 4.3 makes almost as much HP and the same torque as the LG3 305. Albeit the torque happens 400rpm higher on the 4.3


Appreciate the insight into the method in your madness :waytogo: I'll be interested to see how it works out for you. Based on anecdotal evidence, high teens is usually out of range for these trucks without a diesel, so I hope you get there. I think what will be working against you is that 4.3 will be working harder to move the truck around than a V8 would, which may erode the potential economy advantage unless you're doing a lot of highway driving. Best of luck!
 
I got 19 mpg out of my C-10 a couple times, when it was a 305/th350 and a 2.56 rear axle. Those were both on long trips at a constant 55 mph or so. My daily driving which involved a lot of interstate driving at 70 mph or so, always got me 14.5-15.5 mpg. I can't see a 4.3 with roughly the same power output getting much better than that, speeds over 60 mph just take too much throttle. But if your driving is mostly at slower speeds, I think there could be a big improvement.

As for the drill bit topic, those pilot point bits are nice, but when they get dull, you can't sharpen them in a bench grinder like a standard bit.
 
Please report back with your mileage when you get this going.

Generally, it takes X amount of fuel to move X amount of weight. You are not really changing the weight of the vehicle hardly at all. BUT, when it comes to gasoline that rule is less solid at times, that rule really shines with diesel power.
 
Please report back with your mileage when you get this going.

Generally, it takes X amount of fuel to move X amount of weight. You are not really changing the weight of the vehicle hardly at all. BUT, when it comes to gasoline that rule is less solid at times, that rule really shines with diesel power.

Don't neglect that wind drag (where these trucks are really out-dated and inefficient) goes up as the CUBE of the speed. So while that's negligible at 25MPH, it is the dominating power drain at 75MPH.

On a side note: If you're looking for mileage, the diesels are really nice (I would get cranky if my mileage got down as low as 19MPG on the road).

Please report back with your mileage when you get this going.

Definitely. I find mileage numbers fascinating (part of me wants to start trying out basic streamlining mods to see how much better I can get the mileage). It's probably not worth it (a streamlined brick is still a brick), but I am curious to see how your project turns out.
 

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