Anyone know the Gauge of LMC Floor Panels? Welding Qs..

[Z71paramedic]

the underside would probably be more important than the top to keep crap out of the joint.

 

[ryoken]

correct... but do both sides if ya can.. personally i'm a fan of the 800ez series sealer from lord fusor...

 

[Dabba]

Thanks for the tip. Do i do the tool to make holes, or can i use a drill? And.. how much do they run abouts?

 

[ryoken]

you can just use a drill... the flange/punch tools run from about $40 to $100 depending on brand...

http://www.google.com/search?q=flan....,cf.osb&fp=f099214307952858&biw=1600&bih=747


heavy duty versions like mine are usually around $200

 

[Dabba]

Hmm, pretty cheap but maybe ill use the drill. Air compressor is burried under mountains of ****. Really not looking forward to doing this in 30-40 degree weather but, i dont think the rust will wait till spring.

 

[Dabba]

Hey Ryoken one last question. Do you know the names of the primer and sealent products off the top of your head? I'm probably going to order them online. I called the local shop and he said they dont have anything for prewelding priming, and the any sealant they have is a galvanizing paint. I want to do it the right way so. Thanks man.

 

[ryoken]

well, a spray can of weld-thru primer.. here's a google shopping... i would suggest either SEM or Eastwoods stuff... I like SEM's products.... despise Duplicolor products...

the reg gray would be fine.... the copper variants are the newest thing.. i've used em, and they seem to work good too.. but a little pricier...



http://www.google.com/search?q=weld....,cf.osb&fp=f099214307952858&biw=1600&bih=747



seam sealer, i really like the Lord Fusor 800EZ series in cartridges.... get some acid brushes to brush it out a bit... little soap and water on the brush makes it smooth easier.... here's a google search...

http://www.google.com/products/cata...a=X&ei=fhWvTvCEJ4fb0QGd5Pi1Dw&ved=0CC8Q8wIwAg



WARNING.... seam sealers do not have great shelf life once opened, or even sealed... just get what ya need, and can use in a month or so.. a tube, or 2 should be plenty for ya...

 

[Dabba]

Thanks man. Yeah the guy didnt seem to know about the primers, he said paint just come up at those temps. you think .35 i have is okay or should i go out and get the smaller wire?

 

[ryoken]

not a very informed person he is..


personally, i think 35 is too big for any 110 machine apps, especially sheetmetal..... i usually leave .030 in my machine all the time for everything.... but if you foresee using the welder for more lighter gauge stuff in addition to the floors, spool it up with .023... you'll need to check your machine and see what the roller/feed setup is for.. most times you have to flip over, or change the roller to run .023...

 

[Dabba]

Thanks man. Ill order that stuff and look to see what the machine can take as far as the size. Havent screwed around with pulling the wire yet.

 

[Dabba]

Hmm, my welder doesnt list .23 wire. But I might grab it anyway. Only lists .35 and .30. Think i can run it? Just lower settings?

 

[British Slave]

You are not going to like hearing this, but with the machine you have, you need to buy the MIG conversion kit and rent/buy a bottle of CO25 gas. And maybe a new feed roller that will drive .023 wire.

 

[Dabba]

.23 wire only looks co2? Hmm.. maybe ill just try practicing with the 35 or 30 and see how it turns out. If i need it, ill spend the money. The unit i have can take the gas but.. dont really wanna spend more cash than i have..

 

[Z71paramedic]

definitely get the .030 wire, you'll thank yourself later. If you're overlapping and using plug welds it's not that necessary to use the gas. If you were butt welding the whole thing I'd be recommending differently

 

[Dabba]

.30 over .35 big difference? If so ill run out and get it next chance i get.. which may end up being sat. Damn life getting in the way of my welding progress ha

 

[wazzabie]

not a very informed person he is..


personally, i think 35 is too big for any 110 machine apps, especially sheetmetal..... i usually leave .030 in my machine all the time for everything.... but if you foresee using the welder for more lighter gauge stuff in addition to the floors, spool it up with .023... you'll need to check your machine and see what the roller/feed setup is for.. most times you have to flip over, or change the roller to run .023...

I picked up some .023 easy grind by esab. made in the USA I havn't used it it but this stuff is supposed to be designed just for body work.

 

[ryoken]

yup, good wire, it's what we had in one of our machines at the collision shop...

 

[British Slave]

.23 wire only looks co2? Hmm.. maybe ill just try practicing with the 35 or 30 and see how it turns out. If i need it, ill spend the money. The unit i have can take the gas but.. dont really wanna spend more cash than i have..

Your machine already has the regulator and hose for MIG? If so, all you would need is contact tips, feed roller, and gas to use .023 wire. The Lincoln 125HD comes standard with flux core capabilities, but not MIG. A conversion kit is available with all the MIG accessories.

 

[Dabba]

Oh yeah i'd need a conversion kit.. damn. Is there any .23 wire i could use without?

 

[ryoken]

i would just run .030...... most machines come with a .030, .035 roller.. just flip it around... a gas setup is more important than 23 vs 30... but even then, i've done a TON of simil;ar jobs with fluxcore .030... but gas makes it much nicer..