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anyone seen the new power wagon

73redblaze

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Just got my issue of off road adventure by 4wheelparts and it says the power wagon has 32" of travel and comes with 4.56 gears and front and rear lockers! It also has 3 skid plates and slider rails running the length of the truck. So my question is what is the difference between the dodge ram and the power wagon?
 
its more of an offroad ready truck off the showroom floor. has the hemi and a front hidden winch. all i really know
 
o ok so its built for more of a offroad truck then the ram? cool. i never knew there was a difference except the name
 
selectable lockers front and rear,electricly disconecteable sway bar,hidden 12k winch,2" or so higher ride height and larger tires plus the body and drive train protection.
great rig to base a fullsize build off of.be real nice with the cummins and short bed crew cab.
 
Yep, the lack of the cummins option has severely hampered sales of the Power Wagon. It would be a great truck with the diesel, without it, it is still a good off road truck but it is hampered by the lack of torque and mileage that people want in a truck.
 
IIRC they have AAM axles (american axle manufacturing) and they are supposed to be strnger than spicer axles. but i could be way off....
 
Yah, the no cummins is killing it. Not many ppl want a 3/4 ton truck with the hemi.
 
14 miles to the gallon at best, most report getting close to 12 when towing or doing anything. In addition, they are weak on the bottom end, not much torque.
 
The Power Wagon is not exactly new to the scene as Dodge introduced these in 2005, it's just that they redesigned the body style on all of the Dodge trucks for this year which carries over to the Power Wagon.

Just to clarify, the Power Wagon is NOT a completely different vehicle but rather just an option package added onto a Dodge 2500 series truck. Basically, you could take a regular ol' Dodge 2500 truck and swap the parts out to make it a Power Wagon with just hand tools. I'm not taking anything away from the Power Wagon as it is a really nice package and by far the most off-road capable fullsize truck offered by the factory.

A Power Wagon is $10,000 more than the very lowest base model version with no options you can get but that's not a very fair comparison. You need to compare the pricing between a Power Wagon and another Dodge truck that has all of the comparable options minus the specific Power Wagon items. I bet there would only be a $4-5,000 dollar difference at most.........and go try to add selectable lockers, gears, suspension, tires, winch, skid plate, and cover it all by the factory warranty to a new Dodge truck for the same price.
 
6.2Blazer said:
The Power Wagon is not exactly new to the scene as Dodge introduced these in 2005, it's just that they redesigned the body style on all of the Dodge trucks for this year which carries over to the Power Wagon.

Just to clarify, the Power Wagon is NOT a completely different vehicle but rather just an option package added onto a Dodge 2500 series truck. Basically, you could take a regular ol' Dodge 2500 truck and swap the parts out to make it a Power Wagon with just hand tools. I'm not taking anything away from the Power Wagon as it is a really nice package and by far the most off-road capable fullsize truck offered by the factory.

A Power Wagon is $10,000 more than the very lowest base model version with no options you can get but that's not a very fair comparison. You need to compare the pricing between a Power Wagon and another Dodge truck that has all of the comparable options minus the specific Power Wagon items. I bet there would only be a $4-5,000 dollar difference at most.........and go try to add selectable lockers, gears, suspension, tires, winch, skid plate, and cover it all by the factory warranty to a new Dodge truck for the same price.
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x2. Its just a shame that they won't put that "option" package on a cummins truck. Because really, you can work a powerwagon just as hard as a regular 2500...but lack of the cummins hurts is power dept.
 
according to 4wheel offroad in their "questions" section they have been running recently; dodge said that the cummins option was too hard to incorperate with the hidden winch, disco sway bar, and the 4.56 gears where too low....any that its not a trail worthy motor....

this is somewat of an oxy moron to me. the power wagon is a crewcab shortbed truck.imo that is too big for a trail rig. therefore the with the truck not being trailworthy for most ppl the diesel would be the ultimate option.... step up to 35's and the gearing wouldnt be awful.

overall cool truck, but id rather build my own power wagon out of a qcsb diesel 5spf truck with sliders, winchbumper, rear bumper, and low gears etc
 
You know why?

The power wagons have the selectable lockers which are currently only available for the 10.5" AAM rear. They don't make that locker for the 11.5" AAM rear.

The diesel requires the 11.5" AAM rear because of it's torque output. With no selectable rear locker, it's no longer a power wagon I guess.
 
496truck said:
You know why?

The power wagons have the selectable lockers which are currently only available for the 10.5" AAM rear. They don't make that locker for the 11.5" AAM rear.

The diesel requires the 11.5" AAM rear because of it's torque output. With no selectable rear locker, it's no longer a power wagon I guess.
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I think we have a winner. Bummer.
 
pennsylvaniaboy said:
according to 4wheel offroad in their "questions" section they have been running recently; dodge said that the cummins option was too hard to incorperate with the hidden winch, disco sway bar, and the 4.56 gears where too low....any that its not a trail worthy motor....
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I think that response is just an excuse and not the real reason. There is no reason you couldn't adjust the axle gearing for the Cummins....not like you couldn't call it a Power Wagon because it only had 4.11's in it. Besides the difference between 4.11 (factory available option on Cummins trucks with smaller standard tires) and the 4.56 with slightly larger tires is minimal.

Also have a hard time believing they can't figure out how to package the winch and selectable sway bar. The sway bar itself is pretty small.

The most logical response is what is mentioned above regarding no locking diff for the 11.5" axle.......but still have a hard time believing AAM wouldn't build the diff if Dodge wanted it.
 
6.2Blazer said:
I think that response is just an excuse and not the real reason. There is no reason you couldn't adjust the axle gearing for the Cummins....not like you couldn't call it a Power Wagon because it only had 4.11's in it. Besides the difference between 4.11 (factory available option on Cummins trucks with smaller standard tires) and the 4.56 with slightly larger tires is minimal.

Also have a hard time believing they can't figure out how to package the winch and selectable sway bar. The sway bar itself is pretty small.

The most logical response is what is mentioned above regarding no locking diff for the 11.5" axle.......but still have a hard time believing AAM wouldn't build the diff if Dodge wanted it.
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i would agree its an excuse but
 
If they put the deisel in it and upgraded the axles and other components acordingly and didn't up the gear ratio tha Power Wagon would be THE rig to have. The reviews of it now are awesome other the gas mileage and a few other minor other things that don't really mean squat if torque and towing is not your main thing.
 
6.2Blazer said:
I think that response is just an excuse and not the real reason. There is no reason you couldn't adjust the axle gearing for the Cummins....not like you couldn't call it a Power Wagon because it only had 4.11's in it. Besides the difference between 4.11 (factory available option on Cummins trucks with smaller standard tires) and the 4.56 with slightly larger tires is minimal.

Also have a hard time believing they can't figure out how to package the winch and selectable sway bar. The sway bar itself is pretty small.

The most logical response is what is mentioned above regarding no locking diff for the 11.5" axle.......but still have a hard time believing AAM wouldn't build the diff if Dodge wanted it.
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I have the 11.5" AAM rear behind my 8.1/Allison. Trust me, I've been patiently waiting for decent locker choices. But there seems to be more coming out every now and then.
 
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