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anyone seen the new power wagon

Actually the biggest reason for no cummins is the intercooler and radiator size. If you ever get a chance to look under the hood of a gas powered ram and a diesel one. You'll notice that in the gasser the radiator is actually offset to one side and all the coolers are off to the other size.Lleaving tons of room between the grill/bumper and the core support, about 6ins or so. On a diesel truck with the huge ass radiator and intercooler plus all the other coolers stacked in a row there is a very small space left till you hit the grill/bumper. This extra space on the gassers is used to "hide" the winch. There is some space on the diesel trucks but not as much.

Having a 2003 dodge cummins, I can't say I would want to do any serious four wheeling with it. Its 23 feet long AND weighs 8000lbs :eek1:. That would seriously suck to get stuck with:crazy:. I have no problems doing fire roads and very mild trails, but that's about it. I have the chevy for the little crazier stuff:D, course it weighs about 6000lbs on its own :haha:. So not to much weight saved.
 
I love the idea, but I couldnt take a $40K truck out wheeling, And I know how HUGE my friends CCSB 2500 cummins is.

They really should find a way to incorporate the cummins into it, they would sell so may more its not even funny. Wouldnt be that hard, just make some sort of winch bumper from the factory. Then again a winch bumper probably wouldnt meet the fed crash saftey requirements.
 
Yes, they would sell a lot more and probably end the Ram line except in 2x4 configuration. If you are looking for a truck to take off-road, and have the capability of driving on the street and towing, the PW would be the best in a Cummins configuration.
 
Petersens 4 wheel & offroad wheel a power wagon pretty damn hard in Moab. They LOVED it.
 
If they sold this with in a single cab, no power windows no pwr door lock option with a cummins...

Droooool
 
I think a RCLB option would be pretty sweet, would have a definite weight advantage over the CC.
 
They did. When they first came out you could get a reg cab long bed. I've seen 2 locally, one was red, looked good... for a Dodge.

Now they're only CC.
 
I work with vehicle manufacturers all of the time and I guarantee they have performed extensive market and engineering studies on offering a Cummins powered Power Wagon. I also guarantee that they have had prototypes running around their proving grounds since the the initial concept. I don't know exactly what it is, but there is some reason(s) they don't offer it. It's basically Risk vs. Reward......they know it will cost X amount of money and time to bring a Cummins Power Wagon to market but apparently don't believe they could sell enough of them to recoup those costs. Most people probably think all they have to do is slap on some parts and presto, a Cummins Power Wagon. But in reality it would likely cost them a large amount of money to get it ready for market, then how many would they have to sell before they broke even and started making a profit.
 
79rustyk10 said:
I love the idea, but I couldnt take a $40K truck out wheeling, And I know how HUGE my friends CCSB 2500 cummins is.

They really should find a way to incorporate the cummins into it, they would sell so may more its not even funny. Wouldnt be that hard, just make some sort of winch bumper from the factory. Then again a winch bumper probably wouldnt meet the fed crash saftey requirements.
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I bet you there are plenty on this board that are taking a $40k truck on the trails, it looks like a $2k truck but the running gear on some of the trucks here has cost them around $40k and that's with the free labor because it's their hobby :D
 
imiceman44 said:
I bet you there are plenty on this board that are taking a $40k truck on the trails, it looks like a $2k truck but the running gear on some of the trucks here has cost them around $40k and that's with the free labor because it's their hobby :D
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We're not supposed to talk about costs around here, shut your mouth :mad::haha:

Its like farmers not talking about money, car guys don't talk about much other than the purchase price, and deals they find.

Yah, my truck was $2250, but the last quick report i should never have run totalled $10k ish. And most would consider my truck "stock" compared others around here.

NEVER add up your receipts.:D
 
imiceman44 said:
I bet you there are plenty on this board that are taking a $40k truck on the trails, it looks like a $2k truck but the running gear on some of the trucks here has cost them around $40k and that's with the free labor because it's their hobby :D
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I dont doubt that at all, what I meant was a brand new truck that usually comes with a substantial payment every month... Myself, I couldnt take that out on the trails. However I could invest X amount of money into a truck that isnt my DD/towrig or whatever, then go out on the trails and mud holes wheeling with it.
 
Guess I should ask this.....I don't doubt most people on this board (including myself) will say that a Cummins powered Power Wagon would be cool and would love to have one............but how many could realistically go out today and buy a $53,000+ truck (base PW is over $45k, Cummins option is almost $8k). And of those people that say they could, how many would actually be willing to go thrash it off-road while they are still making $1,000/month payments?

Regardless, if you did actually want to go on harder trails at minimum you would need bigger tires. 33" all-terrains on an 8,000 lb. truck is probably about the same as having 27" tires on a Jeep when off-road:doah: I would also take a Hemi powered version over a Cummins anyday if you were strictly talking off-road performance
 
6.2Blazer said:
Guess I should ask this.....I don't doubt most people on this board (including myself) will say that a Cummins powered Power Wagon would be cool and would love to have one............but how many could realistically go out today and buy a $53,000+ truck (base PW is over $45k, Cummins option is almost $8k). And of those people that say they could, how many would actually be willing to go thrash it off-road while they are still making $1,000/month payments?

Regardless, if you did actually want to go on harder trails at minimum you would need bigger tires. 33" all-terrains on an 8,000 lb. truck is probably about the same as having 27" tires on a Jeep when off-road:doah: I would also take a Hemi powered version over a Cummins anyday if you were strictly talking off-road performance
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With a bump in hight, some 37-40" load range d tires that are round " read not superswamper" Id fiddle with the suspension till it soaked up my my definition of what reasonable is "read craters and basket ball sized rocks"

Then Id add a long range fuel cell or a reserve tank with a pump and handle. a utility work top, real bumpers made from 1/4 inch, rock sliders, lighting, cb, pa, tool box and I rock it.


Then I would rock it daily, tow with it, camp in it, avoid dents but pin stripe it/scratch no problem, add a few goodies and smile with the payment.


I certainly would. For me though, it would have to be base/work model. To me a fair price I would like to pay would be 33-39k. A base chevy 2wd w/t is 22-24k.. add 8k for a oil burner, and add then the package price.

When I buy something resale is not in my mind. Im buying the product with a fair price/value. I fully intend to use every bit of the value in that price:D
 
you know that almost sounds like your white truck but with a cummins in it:thinking::D
 
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