We patched up Tim's (Butch - 4x4 Iron) this last week end. IIRC, he said had been beating on it for 7? years before it broke. He had welded the spiders and side gears together into the basket side of the carrier and left the side gear loose on the ring side to simplify alignment. And it is a Gov-Lock carrier. Anyway, after years of beating on it all that time, he finally sheared every single tooth off the side gear trying to get up the same waterfall I broke attempting. So, Saturday night we sat in the parking lot and dismantled that sucker, he borrowed a welder and welded what was left of the side gear to the rest of the mass of stuff, and as far as I know, finished the week end on it. However, he has a Detroit he's planning on installing ASAP (into a different carrier)...