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Are there advantages of auto or manual tranny for rocks
- Thread starter Hubnut
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BlazerBoyK5
1/2 ton status
Oh you mean like a neutral safety switch?
I don't condone that either...not saying I never had a trail pop back in the day though. I got smarter eventually and now refuse to wheel with drunks.
That being said I don't think calling the guy a douche is where we need to go with this. Kinda falls under "personal attack".
Rene
Similar, it prevents the starter from working unless the clutch is depressed. One small jumper wire and you're good to go though.
Rene
BlazerBoyK5
1/2 ton status
When i bought my pedals and stuff i just rigged up a switch tat would bypass or just let it run normal. I can turn it o and off when i need it.
Yep it can and it has
Never tried a burnout on dirt but I am pretty sure I can do that too.
It all comes down to the proper gearing
I don't see anything in that video that a properly setup auto couldn't do.
Idle down the trail - check
Burn out - check (btw most drag racers use autos, and they are pretty good at burn outs).
Idle down the trail - check
Burn out - check (btw most drag racers use autos, and they are pretty good at burn outs).
yep
Sticks and carbs are for race cars.
Autos and fuel injection is for rock crawling.
I have never seen a comp crawler with a manual......
The first to reverse is a must with hardcore crawling, and the 3 foot boogy is annoying.
AGREED! Nothing like being on an uber steep hill with a manual. Let off the brakes and get that clutch out quick! or you rolling backwards in a nano second = NOT fun.
You get all the "engine braking" you need thru the transfer case & axle gears with an auto.
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
I've driven both in mine now and each one has advantages. The auto was nice and simple to deal with on trails, but getting a tire over big logs or out if a ditch could be tricky since the fast wheel speed needed to get unstuck was ok but once it came out of the ditch, it would break traction and move me sideways into another ditch.
The manual does require a little more coordination but the super low gear really helps me "try out" different angles of attack at low speed without crazy wheel spin. With the extra low gearing, I can leave it in low and use the brake to slow down to a near stop without the clutch or stalling. The brakes aren't strong enough to stop the truck when it's in super-low.
The manual does require a little more coordination but the super low gear really helps me "try out" different angles of attack at low speed without crazy wheel spin. With the extra low gearing, I can leave it in low and use the brake to slow down to a near stop without the clutch or stalling. The brakes aren't strong enough to stop the truck when it's in super-low.
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Its actually a little scary, except that it's moving so slow in that gear, you could probably get out, open the hood, and check the wiper fluid while it was moving. Like Rene said, it's easier to shut it down or just take it out of gear than do the three foot dance.
pennsylvaniaboy
1/2 ton status
been covered alot. but i run a manual with 4.1 and love it. it does well in most situations. but i dont comp crawl etc. and in when in geared the whole way down(6.56x4.1x4.10) the need for 3 pedals isnt too demanding.
But can you throw it in super low and just idle down a 45* slope without touching the brakes? Its amazing the hills I have decended at a crawl speed with the seat belt holding me back from sliding up against the steering wheel.
No offense, but spoken by someone that hasn't done much if any wheeling with a manual tranny. If I'm gonna use the clutch (and that's a big if...) the procedure on a steep hill start is this.
Right foot on brake holding the truck
Left foot releasing the clutch until it starts to grab.
Right foot eases up on brake.
Left foot releases clutch completely
Right foot has a snooze, or possibly adds a bit of gas depending on what's next.
No need for more than two feet, no need for panic, and no rolling backwards.
Rene
None taken Rene, You are right. I am not afraid to admit it, I have never wheeled a manual, And I am a inexperienced wheeler. BUT! I have my preference. I will still choose auto just to keep from shifting & dealing with a clutch in traffic, I DO have that experience for sure WITH a manual.
So there.
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Yea, a manual is likely to suck in traffic. I know mine sucks when I have to stop and go every 10 feet for 20 miles at a time.
I'll give you that...heavy clutch plus heavy traffic and it gets a bit annoying. The upside is I don't have to worry about the tranny heating up while idling in traffic.
It is more 'work' but I like the control, the brute reliability as well as the theft deterrant factor.
My exception the all of this is in the Garbage truck I drive. In that case an automatic certainly does rule, but I go from drive to reverse and back probably 300 times a day, and then there is traffic to deal with. All hail the Allison "world series" 5 speed!
Rene
It is more 'work' but I like the control, the brute reliability as well as the theft deterrant factor.
My exception the all of this is in the Garbage truck I drive. In that case an automatic certainly does rule, but I go from drive to reverse and back probably 300 times a day, and then there is traffic to deal with. All hail the Allison "world series" 5 speed!
Rene
Kjunky5
1/2 ton status
Having rebuilt automatics, I'm partial to them. Compression braking in 1st,2nd,and 3rd gear. Ability to lock converter for even more compression braking. Torque multiplying converter. What's not to like. I know you can pull start a manual but you can do that with an auto too. Using an Accusump. One less pedal and stick to worry about. Now having said all that, manuals are fun to drive. Wouldn't want to do it day in and day out though.
Auto>Manual
Auto>Manual
3 on the tree
1/2 ton status
I have owned and wheeled both.
Right now, my 429/C6/205, with 4.56 gears, is what I wheel. Autos do compression brake, expecially when the engine is at 11-1 comp ratio.
I like being able to hold the truck, pointing uphill, without using the brakes. Yes, its hard on trannies, but a good cooler will keep you on the trail
Right now, my 429/C6/205, with 4.56 gears, is what I wheel. Autos do compression brake, expecially when the engine is at 11-1 comp ratio.
I like being able to hold the truck, pointing uphill, without using the brakes. Yes, its hard on trannies, but a good cooler will keep you on the trail
