BBC Serpentine???

[ak bandit]

Would this setup work for an early model Mark IV BBC?

http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/store/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=1321&Category_ID=33

 

[90blzr]

If you are gonna get it, try www.gmpartsdirect.com ...from what I punched up...after shipping its about $100 cheaper than the site you posted

 

[ak bandit]

Cool...Thanks...Now if I can only figure out if it will work for a Mark IV BBC

 

[rcamacho]

Dunno for sure, but it will probably require a reverse rotation long water pump.

If you get a concrete answer I'm interested as well. I'm running a MarkIV 396/402 with milled 454 OC heads.

 

[ak bandit]

I called the local Chevrolet Parts and Services department and they were unhelpful (as usual). I didnt get a yes or a no whether it would fit or not....

 

[83ZZ502_Jimmy]

Yes

 

[HarryH3]

The real pisser is that they don't sell the kit without the a/c compressor and power steering pump. I don't need either of them. I guess I'll take their parts list to the local dealer and see what it would cost to buy the rest of the stuff individually...

 

[sweetk30]

buy it all in the kit and sell the new on ebay. have you seen the prices on the a/c comp alone. just a idea. and you might actuly make some money back also.

 

[90blzr]

Dunno for sure, but it will probably require a reverse rotation long water pump.

If you get a concrete answer I'm interested as well. I'm running a MarkIV 396/402 with milled 454 OC heads.

I believe it comes with a water pump. Basically EVERYTHING you need to convert over

 

[90blzr]

The real pisser is that they don't sell the kit without the a/c compressor and power steering pump. I don't need either of them. I guess I'll take their parts list to the local dealer and see what it would cost to buy the rest of the stuff individually...

The first part number he posted is a kit without the a/c compressor i think? Its a bit cheaper too.
The description is the same for both, but when you place the order, it specifically says w/o a/c.
Different part numbers for the kit with a/c and the kit without a/c

 

[HarryH3]

The first part number he posted is a kit without the a/c compressor i think? Its a bit cheaper too.
The description is the same for both, but when you place the order, it specifically says w/o a/c.
Different part numbers for the kit with a/c and the kit without a/c

That kit is for non-air-conditioned vehicles. The brackets are different, although they use the same picture for both kits. A black Suburban NEEDS a/c!

 

[thebigdaddyof2]

I have this info saved from a while back.

HTH

BBC Serpentine List With AC

11/29/04

Category 7 of 14 >>
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<< Product 7 of 8 >>
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Big Block Accessory Drive (with air) # 12498733

Note: Typical picture shown. Product may be different from shown.


SKU: 12498733
RETAIL: $915.00
PRICE: $777.75

Description
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This deluxe serpentine belt drive system with air conditioner includes the componets to install on a standard 9.80" deck or the 10.20" tall deck Chevrolet block. The bolt, nuts, spacer along with all the parts listed below.

Part QTY Description
10463415 1 Generator Asm-reman CS130
26010328 1 Pump Asm-Power steering
12456326 1 Pump Kit, Wat
01134343 1 Compressor Asm, A/C R4
10187612 1 Bracket-A/C Cm0pr
10187613 1 Bracket-A/C Cmpr
11515757 1 Bolt-Metric HeavyHex Flange H
10108470 1 Outlet-Water
10105135 1 Gasket-Water Outlet
11514189 3 Bolt-M10 x 1.5 x 105.0
11518034 1 Bolt-Heavy Hex Flange Hd
10085753 1 Pulley Asm-cr/shf
11516328 1 Bolt,Hfh
09440226 3 Bolt-Flg Hex Hd .375-24 x .625
88986828 1 Belt, W/Pump and A/C Cmpr and Generator
09442911 1 Bolt/Screw-7/16 x 14 x 4 1/4
88986813 1 Belt, Fan, W/Pmp, and A/C Cmpr
12552359 1 Tensioner Asm-Drv Belt
12552361 1 Pulley Asm-Belt Idler
10085760 1 Pulley-Fan and W/Pump
06272959 2 Connector-Therm Bypass Hose
01470030 2 Clamp, Worm Type (11/16" to 1 5)
01485552 1 Hose Water Heater .750 ID
12573728 1 Pulley Asm-P/S Pump
11515767 3 Bolts Trans BR Brkt
88961892 1 Bracket, Tall Deck Power Steer
10187611 1 Bracket-Gen Fr
10187610 1 Bracket-Gen and P/S Pump
09442963 5 Bolt Hex Flg Hd
11515756 4 Bolt-Metric Heavy Hex Flg Hd
10224224 2 Stud-Gen and P/S Pump Brkt
03930109 2 Nut-Hex Flg
10255857 2 Nut-M10x1.5 Flanged Hex Head
10244168 3 Bolt/Screw-3/8 x 16 x 4 1/4 FL
11516109 1 Bolt-Metric Heavy Hex Flange H
24572579 1 Bolt/Screw-Tmg Chain HSG
11515754 4 Bolt-Metric Hvy Hex Flg Hd(M8)

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[thebigdaddyof2]

And this.

BBC Serpentine List Without AC

11/29/04

Category 7 of 14 >>
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<< Product 8 of 8
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Big Block Accessory Drive (with out air) # 12498741

Note: Typical picture shown. Product may be different from shown.


SKU: 12498741
RETAIL: $665.00
PRICE: $565.25

Description
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This deluxe serpentine belt drive system with air conditioner includes the componets to install on a standard 9.80" deck or the 10.20" tall deck Chevrolet block. The bolt, nuts, spacer along with all the parts listed below.

Part QTY Description
104633415 1 Generator Asm-reman CS130
26010328 1 Pump Asm-Power steering
12456326 1 Pump Kit, Wat
11515757 1 Bolt-Metric HeavyHex Flange H
10108470 1 Outlet-Water
10105135 1 Gasket-Water Outlet
11514189 3 Bolt-M10 x 1.5 x 105.0
11518034 1 Bolt-Heavy Hex Flange Hd
10085753 1 Pulley Asm-cr/shf
11516328 1 Bolt,Hfh
09440226 3 Bolt-Flg Hex Hd .375-24 x .625
88986828 1 Belt, W/Pump and A/C Cmpr and Generator
09442911 1 Bolt/Screw-7/16 x 14 x 4 1/4
88986813 1 Belt, Fan, W/Pmp, and A/C Cmpr
12552359 1 Tensioner Asm-Drv Belt
12552361 1 Pulley Asm-Belt Idler
10085760 1 Pulley-Fan and W/Pump
06272959 2 Connector-Therm Bypass Hose
01470030 2 Clamp, Worm Type (11/16" to 1 5)
01485552 1 Hose Water Heater .750 ID
12573728 1 Pulley Asm-P/S Pump
11515767 3 Bolts Trans BR Brkt
88961892 1 Bracket, Tall Deck Power Steer
10187611 1 Bracket-Gen Fr
10187610 1 Bracket-Gen and P/S Pump
09442963 5 Bolt Hex Flg Hd
11515756 4 Bolt-Metric Heavy Hex Flg Hd
10224224 2 Stud-Gen and P/S Pump Brkt
03930109 2 Nut-Hex Flg
10255857 2 Nut-M10x1.5 Flanged Hex Head
10244168 3 Bolt/Screw-3/8 x 16 x 4 1/4 FL
11516109 1 Bolt-Metric Heavy Hex Flange H
24572579 1 Bolt/Screw-Tmg Chain HSG
11515754 4 Bolt-Metric Hvy Hex Flg Hd(M8)
10055890 1 Pulley, Idler

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[ak bandit]

Cool deal...Thanks for the info.
What is the difference between the Mark IV and the Gen V BBC's?

 

[90blzr]

Cool deal...Thanks for the info.
What is the difference between the Mark IV and the Gen V BBC's?

Are you sure the brackets are different? I mean the main brackets or? My '90 had a/c and when the pump took a crap, I just went and bought the idler pulley that bolted right into the original a/c pump position. Worked like a charm.

Wonder if it is that simple on the big blocks?

 

[ak bandit]

I'm not sure of anything
I have a long block 396BBC that needs all the brackets, pulleys, and accessories...That serpentine drive kit isnt a bad deal considering it includes everything you need. I just dont want to order it and the thing end up not fitting...

 

[Leadfoot]

I'm looking to do the same on a BBC I have sitting in my garage.

I took the kits and put there part numbers in an excel spreadsheet.

The only difference in part numbers is:

A/C kit has these extra parts:

01134343 1 Compressor Asm, A/C R4
10187612 1 Bracket-A/C Cm0pr
10187613 1 Bracket-A/C Cmpr


The Non A/C kit has this extra part:

10055890 1 Pulley, Idler

ALL OTHER PART NUMBERS ARE THE SAME.

The funny thing I did notice is that both kits come with two belts:

88986828 1 Belt, W/Pump and A/C Cmpr and Generator
88986813 1 Belt, Fan, W/Pmp, and A/C Cmpr

I don't think (that is usually my problem ) that the external bolt holes are different between gen IV and V and VI BBC's, but I could be wrong. I think the differences are mostly internal with the newer blocks not having a fuel pump boss. If that is the case these kits should work for us.

My only concern is the A/C pump and brackets. My truck did not originally come with A/C so I will be putting a vintage air a/c unit on my truck. I am hoping that it can use the GM pump that comes with the kit or that the vintage air pump will bolt into the GM bracket.

If you find out for sure that it will/won't work, please let me know.

Chris