I used to sell moog ball joints and tie rod ends,also TRW and Mquay-Norris,and they were all quality parts back then,but lately at my friends repair shop I have seen several Moog joints perish in a very short time,and with no abuse on the customers part--I've noticed that the ball joints dont always have a name or part number stamped on them--leads me to beleive that at least some applications are re-boxed china junk,or perhaps OEM in a moog box.Other times they are genuine moog ones with a name and number on them.I dont think Moog is as good as they used to be--I think the company got sold,now perhaps we are buying the name,not the quality.I have seen no problem with TRW,Mquay-Norris,Perfect Circle/Dana stuff,but some of the cheaper off brands that we got from AutoZone have been poor quality.And I've seen some cheaper brands like"Pronto" that are pretty good quality--seems price isnt always a good rule of thumb anymore--you dont always get what you pay for nowadays!. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif