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better mileage: Prius vs M3....

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Well watching Top gear the other day, they pitted a Toyota Prius against a BMW M3 with the 4.0 V8 for MPG championship.
The Prius was to race on the track and the BMW to keep up with it, not pass it.
Well at the end of the Race, the BMW got 19MPG, and the Prius...



















































































Got 17MPG
So it's not what you drive, but how you drive it.
The BMW was cruising effortlessly and the Prius was screaming all the way.
The mileage dropped from the 50MPG average to 17MPG at full speed.
I think I will keep driving my bigger engines and get a decent mileage all the time and have the power when I need it.:D
 
Thats awesome.

I love passing those things going at least ten MPH faster than them, and getting 10 MPG while doing it... The whole time knowing that any amount of oil he manages to save in the course of a week, i consume in a day.:D
 
here in sunny CA, where people love the earth and it's weather....

99% of drivers use their ACs ALL THE TIME!! Even when it's 70*, blue skies, mild wind, and completely beautiful out. The environment thing is just more bullsh1t for these fuking people to talk about.

AC = bad gas millage
AC = having no idea how wonderful feeling it is outside
 
79rustyk10 said:
Thats awesome.

I love passing those things going at least ten MPH faster than them, and getting 10 MPG while doing it... The whole time knowing that any amount of oil he manages to save in the course of a week, i consume in a day.:D
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dont get me wrong,i love my big dumb,gas hog truck.but having a golf TDI would be amazing. no hybrid batteries dieing etc. just a turbo diesel,and they look nice with the right stance. then when ur next to an M3 getting 19mph on streets or highway. ull be getting 45-50mpg. not racing of course. just everyday driving...kind of an un realistic mpg test dont u think?
 
shaun89 said:
dont get me wrong,i love my big dumb,gas hog truck.but having a golf TDI would be amazing. no hybrid batteries dieing etc. just a turbo diesel,and they look nice with the right stance. then when ur next to an M3 getting 19mph on streets or highway. ull be getting 45-50mpg. not racing of course. just everyday driving...kind of an un realistic mpg test dont u think?
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I know that racing the Prius was unrealistic, but it shows you that it's not just about the car but also how you drive it.
The M3 was doing the same task effortlessly, basically it wasn't racing that is why it did so well.
As for TDI, you don't have to sell me on this.
I don't understand the craze with the prius when a TDI can get that mileage with no sweat and no damage to the earth (polution that the prius causes in production far exceeds the polution cars produce)
What I am getting at is without going out and buying a new vehicle, if you drive your existing vehicle calmly and conservatively, you can both save on gas and reduce your impact.
 
I don't understand how a MPG number can make a person feel so good.

If you're worried about pollution, it's the "G" that matters, not the MPG. So the less you drive, the greener you are. The more gas you burn, the more you pollute. And of course manufacturing new cars pollutes - hybrids worst of all.

If you're worried about economy, it's the total cost that matters, not MPG. How much depreciation do you see, what is the insurance cost and what do you spend on gas? A new car almost never wins this comparison. Yet the dealers are always talking about saving money by buying a new car. A $300 car payment when I spend less than that on gas?

It's like my Grandpa used to say: "There is only one reason a person buys a new car.......they want it."
 
COCHEV said:
I need this sticker for my truck!
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Me too.

I had a guy in a prius give me crap one day then I told him in the last year I spent less than $100.00 on gas for this vehicle, How much did you spend?

Then I asked if he thought about what hazardous materials waste dump he would dispose of all the batteries in. Don't worry by the time your grandchildren's children have grown I am sure the damage from the manufacturing of your plastic car won't even be noticeable.

When my truck breaks I often go to a junkyard and reduce the waste they have on site and recycle that part and put it back to use. What is left over is often sold for scrap and recycled into new products.

Now who is the green one?
 
Blue85 said:
I don't understand how a MPG number can make a person feel so good.
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In addition, the prius gets worse mileage on the freeway than it does city driving. I don't understand people that buy them and then drive them on the freeway long distances trying to save gas. Plus all the freeways allow you to drive in the carpool lane with one but it's mpg on the freeway is no better than any other normal car.




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I'm trying to figure out how its taken till 2011 to do what the cruze does:dunno:

My parents bought a 1988 ferd Tbird for 5k in 93. I drobe that thing every other weekend for a year on mostly interstate to see my son who lived 380 miles away. I averaged 31-33 on every trip. Thats with a relatively large car and a pretty guttsy v6. That was built, what..... 23 years ago. Now we can barely get a little car to get 40+???? I just dont get it
 
Why can't the U.S. Mfg'rs build a good little desiel for small trucks and cars. I really think that's the way to go, and hopefully the competition between the big three would get that desiel engine price down.
 
shady said:
I'm trying to figure out how its taken till 2011 to do what the cruze does:dunno:

My parents bought a 1988 ferd Tbird for 5k in 93. I drobe that thing every other weekend for a year on mostly interstate to see my son who lived 380 miles away. I averaged 31-33 on every trip. Thats with a relatively large car and a pretty guttsy v6. That was built, what..... 23 years ago. Now we can barely get a little car to get 40+???? I just dont get it
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This is what is seriously amusing to me.

1990 Geo Metro my parents bought new, averaged 43mpg over its first 100k miles. Probably would have gotten more except I drove it quite a bit.

We built a set of headers and did an ignition on a buddys metro in college for a project and that thing averaged 50 mpg! It was a 90 too.

My current supercharged V-6 (grand prix) gets 28 mpg out on the highway all the time. I have gotten 30 out of it before on the highway.

People are idiots, they are trend followers and the mainstream media has done a good job of brainwashing them. I also think Toyota did a phenomenal job of marketing the Prius.
 
blazinzuk said:
This is what is seriously amusing to me.

People are idiots, they are trend followers and the mainstream media has done a good job of brainwashing them. I also think Toyota did a phenomenal job of marketing the Prius.
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:thumb: I couldn't agree more. .
....buuut don't cha think the oil companies are payin off the car companies (to keep making innefficent cars) to some degree?:dunno::confused:
 
No the auto companies are doing it. Who do you think owns the aftermarket companies. They put things out in their aftermarket to improve things like milage and horsepower. Make more omney that way. Its not a tinfoil hat thing its a fact. The official release of the PT cruiser was held off for nearly a year after the car was ready so they could build up a lagre aftermarket for it before the release. If they did it all at the factory they'd lose money on the after stuff.
 
Here's the thing. People SAY they want high MPG, but they don't really want to live with a high MPG car, thinking "Sure fuel economy is a good idea in general but I am too cool for such a silly little car." On the same token those houses near their job just aren't good enough for them.

Every time the buyer walks past the sub-compact towards the big-rims, 12-way power seats, A/C, navigation, larger engine car - they have shown their priorities. Then when they mash the pedal at every light, swap out the stock wheels for giant ones and drive 80 up the freeway, they prove that MPG doesn't matter to them. If I'm wrong, how has Chrysler sold so many of those Charger/Magnum type things?

The reason there isn't cut-throat competition between the carmakers for fuel economy is that it's still more a problem of marketing than technology. What good is it to build something nobody wants? But getting in the way of natural innovation are all of the politics....
 
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