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dirtwarrior17
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nope not even close. that was for rjf
beater_k20
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dirtwarrior17 said:beater stfu..... you don't know me or what im talking about.... guys had absolutly no connection to any sponsors and why the hell would they lie about losing hp....
apparently you dont know what you're talking about either. the way the TV works so you get free programming, its paid for by sponsors... you know those commercials they play? people pay for those. you know how they show "product x" being installed on a vehicle? manufacturer of "product x" pays to have it installed on the air. lose 10hp, but gain braking power, soudns like a pretty good tradeoff to me.
oh, and as for your expertise with mpg figures, can you tell me why my K20 with no OD, 4.10 gears, and 30" tires manages 11-12 mpg with at least 500# of snowblade hanging on the front of it? seems to me all that flat steel pointed straight into the wind would make a big drag on the aerodrynamics of the truck. hell, what RPM range should i be in with that combination?
84_Chevy_K10
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My C30 that is similar to Jeremy's K20 had 4.10s, 31s, and no overdrive. No plow blade either. TBI 350, 400, 14 bolt. 14 MPG empty, and about 9-10 pulling.
dirtwarrior17
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I guess its all a big conspiracy.... lol
I never saw one of the brake rotor companies commercials after a year of watching that show. Dream car garage is a little different than the other crap they play.
obviously you don't have your mind made up..... anybody that doesn't have thier head in their ass knows that rotational mass eats hp...I was suprised at how much hp it lost, thought it would be less. If they wanted to make it up to sell it don't you think they would use a smaller number
when i said sponsors what do you think i meant?
As for your snowplow that has nothing to do with rotational mass.
I never saw one of the brake rotor companies commercials after a year of watching that show. Dream car garage is a little different than the other crap they play.
excellent argument, "i saw it on TV"
obviously you don't have your mind made up..... anybody that doesn't have thier head in their ass knows that rotational mass eats hp...I was suprised at how much hp it lost, thought it would be less. If they wanted to make it up to sell it don't you think they would use a smaller number
when i said sponsors what do you think i meant?
As for your snowplow that has nothing to do with rotational mass.
beater_k20
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dirtwarrior17 said:
ah, but more rotational mass creates inertia, which keeps the wheel spinning longer. so the power loss is really nothing lost, it takes more to get it moving, less to keep it moving.
no, the snowplow has nothing to do with rotational mass, but it is a pretty big aero drag, probably more so than any heavy tire you can come up with, thus it should decrease milage more.
Guys, we are just beating our heads against the same darned brick wall.dirtwarrior17 said:
beater_k20
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you are kidding, right? dear god, please tell me you're kidding.AkMudr said:Yer snowplow doesnt create any more drag than a bug deflector would.
its only 8 feet long, and 2 1/2 feet tall. dirtwarrior17
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lol *throws fuel on the fire*
that is also about the same as the front of your truck. but it does "cup" the air so yes it does drag but not enough to make a huge difference.
you are right about the inertia but when i said it loses hp i meant peak. Losing hp with rotational mass i.e. bigger or heavier tires means your motor works harder(to get to the speed limit).
you are kidding, right? dear god, please tell me you're kidding.
that is also about the same as the front of your truck. but it does "cup" the air so yes it does drag but not enough to make a huge difference.
you are right about the inertia but when i said it loses hp i meant peak. Losing hp with rotational mass i.e. bigger or heavier tires means your motor works harder(to get to the speed limit).
I would like to hear of what some of you guys are getting for mileage. He thinks 3.8mpg is about right for a mild lifted K5.
beater_k20
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WHOA!!!! DID THIS KID JUST ADMIT THAT HE WAS WRONG?!dirtwarrior17 said:
thank you, lord, for this great miracle which you have just shown us here on the holy message board known as ck5. as for working harder, that's why its important to regear. running a 44" tire with 4.56 gears shouldnt be a whole lot harder on the engine than a set of 3.08s and 30" tires, the rpms are about the same. the only difference you may notice is the aero drag causing it to work slightly harder, but not much.
beater_k20
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77 K10 350/350/203 4.10s 11-12mpg with the blade on, havent checked with the blade off.
vortec
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i didn't mean to start some big argument between everyone. i definitely get much better mileage with the top off, and rear seat out. but, i don't think i'll be mudding or doing 80 down the highway with the top off while it's 40 degrees and rainy. i've reduced weight quite a bit short of using my reciprocating saw. dash is still there, but the interior body panels are out. not sure how much it helps, though.
i think i'll smack some ground effects and a spoiler on there. 4/5 drop will help, too. and i'll add a few dozen stickers, since they add 5hp apiece. ugh, i've actually seen that done to k5's, z71 pickups, etc. makes me want to puke.
i think i'll smack some ground effects and a spoiler on there. 4/5 drop will help, too. and i'll add a few dozen stickers, since they add 5hp apiece. ugh, i've actually seen that done to k5's, z71 pickups, etc. makes me want to puke.
dirtwarrior17
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once again you have managed to make me laugh....
I get 12 with 35's and a 6 inch.
huh? i don't get it.
what do you think i mean when i say it loses 10 hp? How does that make me wrong.... if im wrong illl admit it but that statement is no different from the first one.
a dyno measures peak hp.... if you lose 10 hp on a dyno you lose 10 hp inertia is another story. dynos don't lie.
I get 12 with 35's and a 6 inch.
originally posted by dirtwarrior17 you are right about the inertia but when i said it loses hp i meant peak. Losing hp with rotational mass i.e. bigger or heavier tires means your motor works harder(to get to the speed limit).
WHOA!!!! DID THIS KID JUST ADMIT THAT HE WAS WRONG?!
huh? i don't get it.
what do you think i mean when i say it loses 10 hp? How does that make me wrong.... if im wrong illl admit it but that statement is no different from the first one.
a dyno measures peak hp.... if you lose 10 hp on a dyno you lose 10 hp inertia is another story. dynos don't lie.
beater_k20
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if you're going to make a statment, stick to it if you're so right about everything. after we prove you wrong, then you decide that "oh yeah, you guys were right"
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